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Old 03-18-2012, 10:32 AM   #1
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Once again, you are not familiar with the NHRA rule book and you were not there. You are wrong and NHRA made a mistake and corrected it. End of story! Jim

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Jim, I think Bigshow's point is its not John Clegg's place to do anything but be cordial and understanding about the situation.
It is NHRA and the Tracks responsibility to to remedy the situation not John.
I do not know either of the people involved but mistakes are made and a mutual remedy can be made if everyone keeps their heads straight.
My question is if the fog was bad enough to keep the scoreboards from being seen why were there any cars even on the track.
I would have been more upset about running into a fog with a wet track than anything else.

NHRA touts safety but if you have been around long enough you have witnessed the same issue before. I ran at 8 AM in Indy a few years ago and the scoreboards were not visible from the starting line. I did not make a full pass as I was not comfortable running into a fog and not knowing what was in front of me. I lost and that was the end of the story except I have not been back to Indy since.
NHRA preaches Safety but do not always practice what they preach.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:41 AM   #2
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Why in the world would the starting line crew take the dial in boxes down??
John Clegg is much braver than I, running 170 mph into the fog!
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Jim, I think Bigshow's point is its not John Clegg's place to do anything but be cordial and understanding about the situation.
It is NHRA and the Tracks responsibility to to remedy the situation not John.
I do not know either of the people involved but mistakes are made and a mutual remedy can be made if everyone keeps their heads straight.
My question is if the fog was bad enough to keep the scoreboards from being seen why were there any cars even on the track.
I would have been more upset about running into a fog with a wet track than anything else.

NHRA touts safety but if you have been around long enough you have witnessed the same issue before. I ran at 8 AM in Indy a few years ago and the scoreboards were not visible from the starting line. I did not make a full pass as I was not comfortable running into a fog and not knowing what was in front of me. I lost and that was the end of the story except I have not been back to Indy since.
NHRA preaches Safety but do not always practice what they preach.
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Rick, you are absolutely correct on all counts! My point was I was asking John to be acceptable to the situation and agree to the rerun as it was, given all the actual facts, it was the only right thing to do. I have no problem with John. In fact I don't believe I have ever met the gentleman. but I do respect the fact that he agreed to the rerun without making it a big deal. Jim

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Rick, you are absolutely correct on all counts! My point was I was asking John to be acceptable to the situation and agree to the rerun as it was, given all the actual facts, it was the only right thing to do. I have no problem with John. In fact I don't believe I have ever met the gentleman. but I do respect the fact that he agreed to the rerun without making it a big deal. Jim

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Jim, you need to meet John. He is an absolute gentleman.
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Jim, you need to meet John. He is an absolute gentleman.
I'm sure he is Ed, and as I stated I respect him for handling the situation the way he did. Sorry if I came off harshly to you Ed but I got way too involved in this deal and spent many hours investigating and making phone calls. I hate to see anyone screwed like that, especially a friend. Sorry

They stated to Art that they took the boxes down "because it was late and they were in a hurry to get out of there". A sorry excuse if you ask me. Did anybody ask me? Oh, ok, well you got my opinion anyway! Jim

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They haven't been using dial boxes all weekend. Also, it was much easier to see the scoreboards at night than during the day, I was on the starting line and could very clearly see the scoreboards. I'm not saying there shouldn't have been a rerun, just stating what I saw.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:23 AM   #7
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They haven't been using dial boxes all weekend. Also, it was much easier to see the scoreboards at night than during the day, I was on the starting line and could very clearly see the scoreboards. I'm not saying there shouldn't have been a rerun, just stating what I saw.
That's a interesting statement. You are the only person I have heard state there have been no boxes all weekend! I have spoken to at least 8 racers who have made passes this weekend and all but one (I forgot to ask him) said that the boxes have been there. Also it's funny that the tower stated that the boxes were removed because it was getting late and they wanted to "get out of there". Somebody should pay more attention! Hum? Just sayin'. Jim


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That's a interesting statement. You are the only person I have heard state there have been no boxes all weekend! I have spoken to at least 8 racers who have made passes this weekend and all but one (I forgot to ask him) said that the boxes have been there. Also it's funny that the tower stated that the boxes were removed because it was getting late and they wanted to "get out of there". Somebody should pay more attention! Hum? Just sayin'. Jim


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I guess I'm blind lol, I just looked at the scoreboards to check it for first round
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