Buybacks????

442OLDS · 10-27-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by j gardiner

You guys are not looking at the big picture on these buy backs. You overlook the fact that not everybody is capable of winning these races.

The main reason that I don't care for the buybacks is because after I beat someone,they end up beating me later in the race after I already beat them.That has happened to me more than once.

I don't understand what you mean about being capable of winning?

If its your day,ANYBODY can win.The only way that you can't win is if you are NOT there.

Greg Hill · 10-28-2011, 09:10 AM

I sent an e-mail to Scooter about the buyback or re-entry deal when it was announced. I don't think IHRA understands how offensive this is to most of the old school stock and super stock racers. It's bad enough to not have heads up runs in their tournament of champions race but buybacks are a no no. I truly think they would have come out better without the buyback deal in the form of more than enough race cars to make up the money. I raced a fair amount with IHRA this year, 5 points races and 1 National and can say I enjoyed it thoroughly, however I also think that IHRA doesn't have the tradition of stock and super stock being performance based classes that NHRA does. Because of that I feel they just view us as bracket racers that run in specific classes. One example of that was at Martin at the National event this year. They had a problem with the scales after a bad storm and instead of finding someone to come and fix them they decided to not have heads up runs in stock and super stock. I don' think this affected anyone but the decision was just an example of them not understanding that stock and super stock are a little different from just bracket racers.

THE LEGEND · 10-28-2011, 01:12 PM

I don't know how many remember Larry Ray that raced SS then moved to TS. He put it best when BB came out in Bracket Racing. He said" Best thing that ever happened for the racer. Where can you go and race twice and only tow to the track once"
Chip

j gardiner · 10-28-2011, 04:22 PM

Not everybody is as successful as you are Chip, buybacks are a good deal for you because you win your fare share of races,you make that money back and then some. Their are alot more guys who buyback that never win that money back. So now the burden is on them to fund these higher purses that the top guys win the majority of the time. After awhile they get discouraged and quit and little by little the car counts go down just like they've done in bracket racing. So somebody tell me in the long run how this is good for the sport.

THE LEGEND · 10-28-2011, 04:39 PM

Jeff,
Bottom line is you don't have to BB if you don't want to.
Chip

udog1 · 10-29-2011, 11:17 AM

U get what u pay 4!!!!

THE LEGEND · 10-29-2011, 03:35 PM

Little fact I found interesting. Class racers are being the most vocal against the re-entry program but at VMP more Stockers bought back than any other class. HHHMMM
Chip Johnson

Ed Fernandez · 10-29-2011, 04:09 PM

Surrender to the next lower standard is the new fad.Think about it in every part of your life.

10-28-2011, 09:10 AM	#2
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Buybacks???? I sent an e-mail to Scooter about the buyback or re-entry deal when it was announced. I don't think IHRA understands how offensive this is to most of the old school stock and super stock racers. It's bad enough to not have heads up runs in their tournament of champions race but buybacks are a no no. I truly think they would have come out better without the buyback deal in the form of more than enough race cars to make up the money. I raced a fair amount with IHRA this year, 5 points races and 1 National and can say I enjoyed it thoroughly, however I also think that IHRA doesn't have the tradition of stock and super stock being performance based classes that NHRA does. Because of that I feel they just view us as bracket racers that run in specific classes. One example of that was at Martin at the National event this year. They had a problem with the scales after a bad storm and instead of finding someone to come and fix them they decided to not have heads up runs in stock and super stock. I don' think this affected anyone but the decision was just an example of them not understanding that stock and super stock are a little different from just bracket racers. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

10-28-2011, 01:12 PM	#3
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Buybacks???? I don't know how many remember Larry Ray that raced SS then moved to TS. He put it best when BB came out in Bracket Racing. He said" Best thing that ever happened for the racer. Where can you go and race twice and only tow to the track once" Chip

10-28-2011, 04:22 PM	#4
j gardiner Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: waldorf Posts: 220 Likes: 14 Liked 53 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Buybacks???? Not everybody is as successful as you are Chip, buybacks are a good deal for you because you win your fare share of races,you make that money back and then some. Their are alot more guys who buyback that never win that money back. So now the burden is on them to fund these higher purses that the top guys win the majority of the time. After awhile they get discouraged and quit and little by little the car counts go down just like they've done in bracket racing. So somebody tell me in the long run how this is good for the sport.

10-28-2011, 04:39 PM	#5
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Buybacks???? Jeff, Bottom line is you don't have to BB if you don't want to. Chip

10-29-2011, 11:17 AM	#6
udog1 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: So. Ga Posts: 32 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Buybacks???? U get what u pay 4!!!!

10-29-2011, 03:35 PM	#7
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Buybacks???? Little fact I found interesting. Class racers are being the most vocal against the re-entry program but at VMP more Stockers bought back than any other class. HHHMMM Chip Johnson

10-29-2011, 04:09 PM	#8
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Buybacks???? Surrender to the next lower standard is the new fad.Think about it in every part of your life. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA