Sticks & Autos Together (Class)

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Tom keedle

well, if that's the case, why not let stock/stick run clutchless?

I think that's a good idea, and let the automatics use a trans brake to even things out... all in 1 class.

That would be some interesting class eliminations....

[Jeff Lee]

I've supported combining the transmissions into one class for years.
We didn't split them off when we street raced so why now?

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I've supported combining the transmissions into one class for years.
We didn't split them off when we street raced so why now?

10-4 on that statement. And why not allow a brake? That would make the stock and S/S combo races a little more fair running them together.. . LOL I can almost see Ed now down on the chip and flinging his (middle) finger off the button to show the competition a "NY salute" as he leaves the starting line. Didnt Hayden Proffit give Dave Strickler the NY salute at the finish line at Indy of 1962 for SS/S class.

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

10-4 on that statement. And why not allow a brake? That would make the stock and S/S combo races a little more fair running them together.. . LOL I can almost see Ed now down on the chip and flinging his (middle) finger off the button to show the competition a NY salute.

Lmao I can see Ed now.

[Ed Fernandez]

Seriously,you guys think it would be alright to let stockers have a brake now?

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Seriously,you guys think it would be alright to let stockers have a brake now?

Ed, years ago IHRA allowed them but the NHRA cross overs bitched. When the brakes were outlawed in IHRA nothing changed. The NHRA guys still didnt race with them, the cars didnt slow down, and the same IHRA regulars still did most of the winning. NHRA allows everything else to go on (2 steps, lite alum parts in the trans, gear sets, enhanced heads and intakes, wheelie bars, custom short run cars from the manufacturers, etc.) so whats the big deal. Use one or not. Your choice as it makes no difference especially if the 2 $HRA's combine the sticks and automatics for class in the near future.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Ed, years ago IHRA allowed them but the NHRA cross overs bitched. When the brakes were outlawed in IHRA nothing changed. The NHRA guys still didnt race with them, the cars didnt slow down, and the same IHRA regulars still did most of the winning. NHRA allows everything else to go on (2 steps, lite alum parts in the trans, gear sets, enhanced heads and intakes, wheelie bars, custom short run cars from the manufacturers, etc.) so whats the big deal. Use one or not. Your choice as it makes no difference especially if the 2 $HRA's combine the sticks and automatics for class in the near future.

Half of the content of this website concerns the opposition of parts never meant to be used on stockers.You are one of the most vocal.Now all of a sudden it's ok to dumb down stock because "they allow this and that".You can't have it both ways.Well now f&%$ it I want a Holly 2 bbl and manifold because it was used on AMC 258s built for the Mexican market.And Clifford Eng. makes an alum. head I want that too.See where that will lead to?Then we'll just be SS cars and a lower class car will cost $30K to build to be competitive.
That will bring in a lot of new blood.
Just keep driving nails into the coffin.The funeral will be pretty soon.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Ed, years ago IHRA allowed them but the NHRA cross overs bitched. When the brakes were outlawed in IHRA nothing changed. The NHRA guys still didnt race with them, the cars didnt slow down, and the same IHRA regulars still did most of the winning. NHRA allows everything else to go on (2 steps, lite alum parts in the trans, gear sets, enhanced heads and intakes, wheelie bars, custom short run cars from the manufacturers, etc.) so whats the big deal. Use one or not. Your choice as it makes no difference especially if the 2 $HRA's combine the sticks and automatics for class in the near future.

Good,let's allow brakes,and I want an air shifter too.And while I'm at it I want the 2 bbl
intake and Holley carb from the Mexican market AMC's.Also the aluminum Clifford head.
I'm sure Cap't Jack would appreciate that I can leave on green and still cover him.Maybe I could even keep up with Briane Philbrick.Let's give the old A/SA cars a bit more cam to keep up with the new cars.What the hell,it's only another little advantage.
Pretty soon we'll be SSers and an entry level car will cost $30K.That will bring new blood into class racing.Yeah yeah that's the ticket.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

I think that's a good idea, and let the automatics use a trans brake to even things out... all in 1 class.

That would be some interesting class eliminations....

There you go again Bill,meddling in an eliminator. you don't run.First off I know this is all
hypothetical,but we all know that there's clutchless cars already.But you say sure fine let
autos run a brake.You're a trip.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

There you go again Bill,meddling in an eliminator. you don't run.First off I know this is all
hypothetical,but we all know that there's clutchless cars already.But you say sure fine let
autos run a brake.You're a trip.

There YOU go again, ED, chastising me for offering my opinion in the "everybody's welcome" forum just because I don't currently run a class car. Do you realize that that's in direct opposition to Ken Miele's description of this forum? Are you new, here???? If you want to read suggestions from people ONLY, who have a permanent number, what are you doing HERE??? Confine your posts and abrasive criticism to the racers' forum; maybe that will make you happy...

And, if that were not bad enough, you continue your modus operandi of attacking the person who posts, without offering ONE WORD of ideas, or criticism, constructive or otherwise, about the issue at hand.

Not ONE WORD.

Oh, you did point out that some Stockers already use clutchless transmissions, a practice that is in direct contradiction to page 7 of Section 10-A of the 2011 NHRA Rule Book, which states unequivocally, "Clutchless transmissions prohibited. Clutch must be used to change gears in a conventional manner." Are you revealing that the stick shift guys are just a bunch of cheaters?

Do you have ANY thoughts on what might could work to equalize the clutchless issue for automatics, of do you just want to run your mouth???

Any real ideas/suggestions????

I thought not...