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MikeFicacci 03-14-2011 01:38 PM

Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
NHRA has made a change to class so that sticks and autos with only one car in the class will run together. I think this is a great idea and they should have combined the two full time years ago. What is the latest qualm with doing so? It will increase the likelihood of heads-up runs and the advantages/disadvantages of each seem to be more and more minimal as automatic transmission technology has caught up and potentially passed that of manual transmissions. The records are very similar with most automatics being faster. I know this has been brought up before but I still fail to see why it would be so problematic.

MikeFicacci 03-14-2011 01:58 PM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
It's been brought to my attention that I have make have misinterpreted the garble NHRA likes to write. Seems you need a doctorate to interpret their craziness. I think the question is still valid though about combining the two.

Mike Carr 03-14-2011 02:40 PM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
Heres' a question a friend and I wondered last week:

In Classes where Sticks and Auto's can both run (SS/AH, SS/Modified Classes, SSGT/Truck, and FWD classes), does transmission type dictate which "combo race" they will run? Example: Last year at Indy, the EF/S final, Ron Seibernick (automatic) vs Steve Polhill (stick). Had one of these drivers been a bye, would Ron have run the Stock/Automatic Class Combo and Steve the Stock/Stick Class Combo?

Alkey Alex 03-14-2011 06:37 PM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 245821)
Heres' a question a friend and I wondered last week:

In Classes where Sticks and Auto's can both run (SS/AH, SS/Modified Classes, SSGT/Truck, and FWD classes), does transmission type dictate which "combo race" they will run? Example: Last year at Indy, the EF/S final, Ron Seibernick (automatic) vs Steve Polhill (stick). Had one of these drivers been a bye, would Ron have run the Stock/Automatic Class Combo and Steve the Stock/Stick Class Combo?

Thanks Mike! I don't think NHRA thought about this when they were thinking up their Class Elimination plan.

Tom keedle 03-14-2011 07:35 PM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
well, if that's the case, why not let stock/stick run clutchless?

art leong 03-14-2011 08:37 PM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 245821)
Heres' a question a friend and I wondered last week:

In Classes where Sticks and Auto's can both run (SS/AH, SS/Modified Classes, SSGT/Truck, and FWD classes), does transmission type dictate which "combo race" they will run? Example: Last year at Indy, the EF/S final, Ron Seibernick (automatic) vs Steve Polhill (stick). Had one of these drivers been a bye, would Ron have run the Stock/Automatic Class Combo and Steve the Stock/Stick Class Combo?

I guess they will just stick their head in the car and see.
And whatever they tell me to run I'm going to run. I they make a mistake it won't be my problem.

art leong 03-14-2011 08:41 PM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alkey Alex (Post 245887)
Thanks Mike! I don't think NHRA thought about this when they were thinking up their Class Elimination plan.

I can't believe Bernie and the Scooter bros didn't think of that
A couple of months ago there was tons of praise for the "enhancement"
They also never though about cars that control their own destiny.
It's akin to "Vote on it, then read whats in the bill"

Robert Simpson 03-15-2011 07:21 AM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 245821)
Heres' a question a friend and I wondered last week:

In Classes where Sticks and Auto's can both run (SS/AH, SS/Modified Classes, SSGT/Truck, and FWD classes), does transmission type dictate which "combo race" they will run? Example: Last year at Indy, the EF/S final, Ron Seibernick (automatic) vs Steve Polhill (stick). Had one of these drivers been a bye, would Ron have run the Stock/Automatic Class Combo and Steve the Stock/Stick Class Combo?

I believe they are thinking of lets say a Top, middle and junior stock per say. Top=A-E, Middle=F-K and Junior for the remainder. Somthing like that. I see it not working entirely as they think. I like the idea of heads up runs but the system them have layed out I see allot more problems than potential answers. That is my .02

jimi 03-15-2011 07:43 AM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tom keedle (Post 245898)
well, if that's the case, why not let stock/stick run clutchless?

x2

Jack McCarthy 03-15-2011 12:38 PM

Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class)
 
im praying that another USA shows in belle rose, or as i see it ill get to run tueton for class cause nobody is dumb enough to enter his class....

however like bob shaw, if im gonna get my *** kicked it might as well be by a great guy like bob or jeff....

however, it will be my last enhanced class race > i did not build a 4500 station wagon to run a 2011 hemi heads up for a lousy $400 >

also PAT JOFFRION > how will this effect who gets into CIC race or am i screwed for that too ?????????????????????????

jack mccarthy
former class winner


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