New class structures

[BuzzardBros]

Ed... Let me get this straight. You want to eliminate TAD/TAFC and combine them with TF & FC. You want them to toss their $80-100 grand operation into the toilet and start from scratch. Their motors are completely different. Not to mention their pit crews. There's only so many T/F crews out there. BTW, I would just love dragging my stuff around to these races because the big sponsors would stay with the cars/people they already have leaving everybody else with absolutely no chance of winning. Pro Stock would encompass the same thing.
You want everyone with the exception of sportsman racers and the richest people in drag racing to en cure no out of pocket money just the low end of the professional ranks to foot the tab. Oh, I get it, you were kidding right.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by BuzzardBros

Ed... Let me get this straight. You want to eliminate TAD/TAFC

Hey....Thats a GREAT idea. Why didn't I think of that ! lol

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by BuzzardBros

Ed... Let me get this straight. You want to eliminate TAD/TAFC and combine them with TF & FC. You want them to toss their $80-100 grand operation into the toilet and start from scratch. Their motors are completely different. Not to mention their pit crews. There's only so many T/F crews out there. BTW, I would just love dragging my stuff around to these races because the big sponsors would stay with the cars/people they already have leaving everybody else with absolutely no chance of winning. Pro Stock would encompass the same thing.
You want everyone with the exception of sportsman racers and the richest people in drag racing to en cure no out of pocket money just the low end of the professional ranks to foot the tab. Oh, I get it, you were kidding right.

No,I was serious as a heart attack.A lot of the dragsters are injected fuel combos already.
In TA/FC after Frank,everybody else is racing for R/U at a race and #2 in the country.
You'll probably lose some teams.How many competitive teams are in T/F now?How many in F/C?Backing down the fuel cars will open up the amount of cars to fill 28 car fields and maybe make the racing closer and what NHRA wants,more entertaining.After all we're in the entertainment business now.
The budgets would get smaller with the backing down of power and the use of only two engines per race.
Uh,alcohol cars aren't pros,they're supposed to be the top of the sportsman ranks.
I assume that you're either an owner/driver/crew member on an alcohol team.Sorry if you took offense to what I proposed,because it will never happen anyway.
BTW speaking of incurrung expenses.The rest of us lowly sportsman pay into your purse
money.I think we deserve a tip of the hat for that.Your welcomed.

[cicero819]

Both Alky class were design as a minor league system to replenish the major echelons of our sport but now due to the high cost of competing or moving up mostly caused by multiple team ownership with crazy budget, it's no longer possible for them to have a chance to move up as the gap between AA/FC and A/FC has reach unsurmountable proportions. This way someone like Frank Manzo could move up(Parody: just imagine if LeBron James was still playing High School Ball instead of moving up to the pro's, of course he would dominate). Let's nominate Ed as Chairman at NHRA, he wouldn't have to show up but only once a month and could probably cure most of NHRA malignant cancer. You got my vote, maybe have Terry help with the CJ & Challenger Classification. CR

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Both Alky class were design as a minor league system to replenish the major echelons of our sport but now due to the high cost of competing or moving up mostly caused by multiple team ownership with crazy budget, it's no longer possible for them to have a chance to move up as the gap between AA/FC and A/FC has reach unsurmountable proportions. This way someone like Frank Manzo could move up(Parody: just imagine if LeBron James was still playing High School Ball instead of moving up to the pro's, of course he would dominate). Let's nominate Ed as Chairman at NHRA, he wouldn't have to show up but only once a month and could probably cure most of NHRA malignant cancer. You got my vote, maybe have Terry help with the CJ & Challenger Classification. CR

LOL....you dont want me to go there....they would ALL be in S/S with the correct HP factor.

[cicero819]

Seriously Terry why doesn't NHRA classify DP's and CJ's in a class such as FA/SA for Factory A/SA problem solved. This way present A/SA would still be able to compete with no ill effect on their combination. I sure miss the PURE stock idealogy of 1972 . I know that Jeff Teuton and many others could make a Little Red Wagon run 1.50 under if they wanted to, you can't beat dedication and Mr Teuton goes to the front of the line in that department. I love to see new blood and new cars but it shouldn't be to the detriment of others who have toiled for years on some combimation to be overtaken over night by an injust HP classification. Say what you want about generation 3 and 4 of Camaro they were all street cars(Body in white but no powerglides and 650hp+ like some power plant available in new cars not even registrable with any DOT departments) 305 to 350 cu. 145 hp to 330hp . You could have at least five different classes without harming any old combination. Come on NHRA wake up.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Seriously Terry why doesn't NHRA classify DP's and CJ's in a class such as FA/SA for Factory A/SA problem solved. This way present A/SA would still be able to compete with no ill effect on their combination. I sure miss the PURE stock idealogy of 1972 . I know that Jeff Teuton and many others could make a Little Red Wagon run 1.50 under if they wanted to, you can't beat dedication and Mr Teuton goes to the front of the line in that department. I love to see new blood and new cars but it shouldn't be to the detriment of others who have toiled for years on some combimation to be overtaken over night by an injust HP classification. Say what you want about generation 3 and 4 of Camaro they were all street cars(Body in white but no powerglides and 650hp+ like some power plant available in new cars not even registrable with any DOT departments) 305 to 350 cu. 145 hp to 330hp . You could have at least five different classes without harming any old combination. Come on NHRA wake up.

How should I know.....I havent worked for NHRA since 1975 ! I gave them up and worked for IHRA for over 22 years. The question is how did NHRA put them get in the guide in the first place and with such a F##KED HP rating. As Jeff goes and dont take this wrong its called MONEY ! They are a bunch of good guys and Jeff is among one of the nicest guys you would ever want to meet but how many could dent their car a couple of days ago and have it looking new already and ready to race? Owning your own dealerships (as in several) with body shops has its advantages.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Both Alky class were design as a minor league system to replenish the major echelons of our sport but now due to the high cost of competing or moving up mostly caused by multiple team ownership with crazy budget, it's no longer possible for them to have a chance to move up as the gap between AA/FC and A/FC has reach unsurmountable proportions. This way someone like Frank Manzo could move up(Parody: just imagine if LeBron James was still playing High School Ball instead of moving up to the pro's, of course he would dominate). Let's nominate Ed as Chairman at NHRA, he wouldn't have to show up but only once a month and could probably cure most of NHRA malignant cancer. You got my vote, maybe have Terry help with the CJ & Challenger Classification. CR

Yes I would.And my first action would be to retire Danny and make a certain fellow from the mountains of East central Pa. national tech director.And Graham's new job would be getting coffee every morning for the new director.

[BlueOval Ralph]

How can Danny retire you have to work to be able to retire for someone other than your self! Bruce should go also as he is just a Danny yes man!

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Yes I would.And my first action would be to retire Danny and make a certain fellow from the mountains of East central Pa. national tech director.And Graham's new job would be getting coffee every morning for the new director.

[Ed Fernandez]

We're getting away from the intent of the subject.This was started to figure out how to make the classes more racer and fan friendly,not an extension of the DP/Mustang
fiasco.
There were some posts for alternative ideas.Let's hear some more.