Oil Downs (Beat to Death)

will prater · 02-27-2011, 06:48 PM

Make them tech in with one motor and have to use it all weekend. Eddy Hill used to run the same one all weekend in his fuel drag boat. Calm them down so they can get down the track. So what if they are a little slower the noise will still be there. And they might actually have more side by side runs.

novassdude · 02-27-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by will prater

Make them tech in with one motor and have to use it all weekend. Eddy Hill used to run the same one all weekend in his fuel drag boat. Calm them down so they can get down the track. So what if they are a little slower the noise will still be there. And they might actually have more side by side runs.

Big Daddy suggested this also. I think it would do wonders for speeding things up. It would also help the small teams keep up.

Steve1118 · 02-27-2011, 09:34 PM

The way to solve this problem is simple:

Require every Stock / Super Stock / SG / SST / 9-10 second bracket car purchase a diaper, and then figure out how to get it on.

That'll fix the oildown problem.

Ed Wright · 02-27-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1118

The way to solve this problem is simple:

Require every Stock / Super Stock / SG / SST / 9-10 second bracket car purchase a diaper, and then figure out how to get it on.

That'll fix the oildown problem.

I hope your trying to be funny. That's not who is oiling the tracks. I hope your kidding.

Will Prater has it right.

Toby Lang · 02-27-2011, 09:56 PM

Looks to me like they're going to have to incorporate an oil down into the first or worst rule. Oiling down the track would be the equivalent of crossing the centerline or hitting the wall. I say no freebies either.

It can't be any fun for the fans to sit through these oil downs. The fans are the ones who pay the bills for the NHRA.

-Toby

Ed Fernandez · 02-27-2011, 10:03 PM

Bruton Smith probably had it right with Carolina Raceway,but for the wrong reason.Instead of 4 wide they should run the leakers,fuel and alcohol,one one pair and the real race cars on the other pair.For insurance purposes they would need a safer
restraining system to keep a car from jumping the center divider if they were cleaning up a leaker mess and the real cars were running at the same times.
Unfortunately it would be cost and real estate prohibitive.Too bad.

Doug Domm · 02-27-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Bruton Smith probably had it right with Carolina Raceway,but for the wrong reason.Instead of 4 wide they should run the leakers,fuel and alcohol,one one pair and the real race cars on the other pair.For insurance purposes they would need a safer
restraining system to keep a car from jumping the center divider if they were cleaning up a leaker mess and the real cars were running at the same times.
Unfortunately it would be cost and real estate prohibitive.Too bad.

Or they could simply install one of those automatic scraper deals in the first two lanes like the commercial pig barns have and let the foolers run in the dung. That'll slow them down.

SStockDart · 02-27-2011, 11:05 PM

One more comment and I'll be done with this subect.......When the NASCAR cars were going too fast at Daytona and Taledega, they didn't shorten the race. They took away horsepower. Same for Indy Cars when it was deemed the cars were too fast to be safe. I understand that their is a huge difference between the NASCAR, Indy Cars, and NHRA. They are not purely and acceleration competition. They have to finish the race before they can win. I sincerely believe that we can improve the spectator experience, thus improving attendance by reducing the horsepower of the fuel cars and letting them race the complete 1/4 mile. They claim over 8,000 horsepower. Doesn't 4,000 horsepower still sound impressive? Or 3,000? Would reducing the speed of the fuel cars help with the insurance issues? Yes! We would still have the worlds fastest auto sport and could be marketed as such. I for one, want NHRA to be successful. I want to race. But please don't blame us for the oil down problem. And please don't stomp your feet and insist that we don't oil the track or we will penalize you! Instead, address the problem it is not going to go away by itself. I'm done. Time for a chill pill.

cicero819 · 02-27-2011, 09:58 PM

one small fuel pump, 75% nitro and finally bodies that at least resemble the manufacturers product, not a submarine or giant hotdog. Doesn't matter Force will have all his 16 car qualified to make sure one of his daughters wins a championship , same thing in top fool. Better to support your local tracks and help them with putting on a stock and super stock show.

Steve1118 · 02-27-2011, 09:59 PM

Of course I was kidding. Wasn't that obvious?

02-27-2011, 06:48 PM	#1
will prater Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carthage, MO Posts: 108 Likes: 2 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Oil Downs (Beat to Death) Make them tech in with one motor and have to use it all weekend. Eddy Hill used to run the same one all weekend in his fuel drag boat. Calm them down so they can get down the track. So what if they are a little slower the noise will still be there. And they might actually have more side by side runs.

02-27-2011, 09:34 PM	#3
Steve1118 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Walton's Mountain Posts: 116 Likes: 2 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Oil Downs (Beat to Death) The way to solve this problem is simple: Require every Stock / Super Stock / SG / SST / 9-10 second bracket car purchase a diaper, and then figure out how to get it on. That'll fix the oildown problem.

02-27-2011, 09:56 PM	#5
Toby Lang VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 2,133 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Oil Downs (Beat to Death) Looks to me like they're going to have to incorporate an oil down into the first or worst rule. Oiling down the track would be the equivalent of crossing the centerline or hitting the wall. I say no freebies either. It can't be any fun for the fans to sit through these oil downs. The fans are the ones who pay the bills for the NHRA. -Toby

02-27-2011, 10:03 PM	#6
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Oil Downs (Beat to Death) Bruton Smith probably had it right with Carolina Raceway,but for the wrong reason.Instead of 4 wide they should run the leakers,fuel and alcohol,one one pair and the real race cars on the other pair.For insurance purposes they would need a safer restraining system to keep a car from jumping the center divider if they were cleaning up a leaker mess and the real cars were running at the same times. Unfortunately it would be cost and real estate prohibitive.Too bad. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

02-27-2011, 11:05 PM	#8
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,176 Likes: 878 Liked 574 Times in 212 Posts	Re: Oil Downs (Beat to Death) One more comment and I'll be done with this subect.......When the NASCAR cars were going too fast at Daytona and Taledega, they didn't shorten the race. They took away horsepower. Same for Indy Cars when it was deemed the cars were too fast to be safe. I understand that their is a huge difference between the NASCAR, Indy Cars, and NHRA. They are not purely and acceleration competition. They have to finish the race before they can win. I sincerely believe that we can improve the spectator experience, thus improving attendance by reducing the horsepower of the fuel cars and letting them race the complete 1/4 mile. They claim over 8,000 horsepower. Doesn't 4,000 horsepower still sound impressive? Or 3,000? Would reducing the speed of the fuel cars help with the insurance issues? Yes! We would still have the worlds fastest auto sport and could be marketed as such. I for one, want NHRA to be successful. I want to race. But please don't blame us for the oil down problem. And please don't stomp your feet and insist that we don't oil the track or we will penalize you! Instead, address the problem it is not going to go away by itself. I'm done. Time for a chill pill.

02-27-2011, 09:58 PM	#9
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Oil Downs (Beat to Death) one small fuel pump, 75% nitro and finally bodies that at least resemble the manufacturers product, not a submarine or giant hotdog. Doesn't matter Force will have all his 16 car qualified to make sure one of his daughters wins a championship , same thing in top fool. Better to support your local tracks and help them with putting on a stock and super stock show.

02-27-2011, 09:59 PM	#10
Steve1118 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Walton's Mountain Posts: 116 Likes: 2 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Oil Downs (Beat to Death) Of course I was kidding. Wasn't that obvious?