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Old 12-23-2010, 10:30 PM   #1
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The issue of checking stocker legality is tough pre-race. Too many combinations, too many cars, not enough tech people to enforce. The real enforcer of legality for most racers is the paranoia you might get caught or personal integrity to adhear to the rules.

I have suggested to NHRA that perhaps they just need to add enforcement at the end of the race, and inspect the winning car post race, besides the usual safety check for everone that we go through now.

Just add the policy that all winners undergo technical inpection. Leave it open to what that means, driveshaft check, carb check , cam check who knows?. The policy might weed out illegal stuff through out the system by requiring "if you get a check, you will be clean". I would rather pull my car down if I had to at the end of a race and put it back together at home. Not a big deal if I took home a check.

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Old 12-23-2010, 11:30 PM   #2
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The issue of checking stocker legality is tough pre-race. Too many combinations, too many cars, not enough tech people to enforce. The real enforcer of legality for most racers is the paranoia you might get caught or personal integrity to adhear to the rules.

I have suggested to NHRA that perhaps they just need to add enforcement at the end of the race, and inspect the winning car post race, besides the usual safety check for everone that we go through now.

Just add the policy that all winners undergo technical inpection. Leave it open to what that means, driveshaft check, carb check , cam check who knows?. The policy might weed out illegal stuff through out the system by requiring "if you get a check, you will be clean". I would rather pull my car down if I had to at the end of a race and put it back together at home. Not a big deal if I took home a check.

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Have a great holiday too you guys!

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There are quite a few guys out there that are flying,that for one reason or another don't
go a lot of rounds.They would only get torn down based how fast they go.And we all know that there are very few teardowns for any reason.
When the last pair go down the track it looks like rush hour in the Tokyo suway for everyone to get out of there.The last thing you'll see is a teardown session.
My opinion/solution?
Remove sportsman racers,up to and including Comp. (if the comp guys want to),from
nationals and run us at two sports nationals in each division.That's 14 races.Make the
points counting towards the W/C consist of the usual 5/8 divisionals and 2/4 sports nats.
The tourers can still run all the races they want.The budget guys get a bit of a break.
That,and a little budgeting work on the part of Glendora would free up enough caash to pay the divisin tech people what they deserve for what they do.It would also pay for the equipment needed to do the work.
Hell,they just voted two more cash cows to the board,so they could figure out a way to come up with the cash to fund a quality tech dept.
Lastly no more East coast/West coast rule book.
I'll put the bong down now and retire to my bedroom.
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:02 AM   #3
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Old 12-25-2010, 05:16 AM   #4
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There are quite a few guys out there that are flying,that for one reason or another don't
go a lot of rounds.They would only get torn down based how fast they go.And we all know that there are very few teardowns for any reason.
When the last pair go down the track it looks like rush hour in the Tokyo suway for everyone to get out of there.The last thing you'll see is a teardown session.
My opinion/solution?
Remove sportsman racers,up to and including Comp. (if the comp guys want to),from
nationals and run us at two sports nationals in each division.That's 14 races.Make the
points counting towards the W/C consist of the usual 5/8 divisionals and 2/4 sports nats.
The tourers can still run all the races they want.The budget guys get a bit of a break.
That,and a little budgeting work on the part of Glendora would free up enough caash to pay the divisin tech people what they deserve for what they do.It would also pay for the equipment needed to do the work.
Hell,they just voted two more cash cows to the board,so they could figure out a way to come up with the cash to fund a quality tech dept.
Lastly no more East coast/West coast rule book.
I'll put the bong down now and retire to my bedroom.
Ed, I like this ideal of yours best, because I could care less about being at a national event with the pros...they (and the alcoholic cars), get most of the tv air-time anyhow, so I won't go out of my way to watch them at any national events I might attend, when I can go home and see them on ESPN. I'd rather watch Stock & Super Stock (when not racing myself). I wish there would be more sportsnationals (sans the Tad's and Tafc's), for the reasons you stated...thanks Ed! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU 2!!!
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The issue of checking stocker legality is tough pre-race. Too many combinations, too many cars, not enough tech people to enforce. The real enforcer of legality for most racers is the paranoia you might get caught or personal integrity to adhear to the rules.

I have suggested to NHRA that perhaps they just need to add enforcement at the end of the race, and inspect the winning car post race, besides the usual safety check for everone that we go through now.

Just add the policy that all winners undergo technical inpection. Leave it open to what that means, driveshaft check, carb check , cam check who knows?. The policy might weed out illegal stuff through out the system by requiring "if you get a check, you will be clean". I would rather pull my car down if I had to at the end of a race and put it back together at home. Not a big deal if I took home a check.


By the way,

Have a great holiday too you guys!

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They used to do just that. We won two national events in two weeks and came apart both times post race. It was the way they did things they were not picking on us.
We were surprized they did not take us apart after the world finals.
In 73 (I believe) both winner and runnerup were tossed at the E'town national event. There was no winner.
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ED, are you off your MEDS again ????????????????
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They used to do just that. We won two national events in two weeks and came apart both times post race. It was the way they did things they were not picking on us.
We were surprized they did not take us apart after the world finals.
In 73 (I believe) both winner and runnerup were tossed at the E'town national event. There was no winner.
Thats how we did it in IHRA back in the 70's. I remember checking Dave Boertmans 383 several times after he kicked butt after the finals.
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:27 PM   #8
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Ed,
As much as we all complain about the pros I think most of us would not want to be removed from the “Big Show” even though most of the spectators don’t even know we exist.
I think what they should do is after final qualifying pick a set number of competitors at EVERY race seal their motors and tell them to report for a tear down after their eliminated or if their lucky after the final. That way it does not affect anyone still in competition and it spreads the work out for the tech guys.
I also think the tech guys jobs in some ways could be made easier while allowing them to be more through. For instance they should have a photo album of cars and trim options to ensure everyone is racing what they are claiming. I go to the trouble of changing hoods depending on what combo I’m running while I hear stories of people rebadging cars that are not even built on the same platform that they are claiming.
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Bill,that was my solution.As long as we go to nationals,as they are structured now and the type of spectators who attend,we'll continue to be treated like ***** and used like the cash cows that we've become.
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