How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this year

[art leong]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

If they get factored beyond the 7.5 lb break then they need to be in S/S ONLY ! If you like to go faster and spend more than that $100,000 then jump in with both feet instead of just sticking your toe in a little bit. .

The only way that will happen is if they make you run the natural class only
I think this would be a good start.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

If they get factored beyond the 7.5 lb break then they need to be in S/S ONLY ! If you like to go faster and spend more than that $100,000 then jump in with both feet instead of just sticking your toe in a little bit. .

Well said - LOL :-)

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by danny waters sr

" Quote "another association - the other association has done even less than the NHRA with this problem - they're just sitting on their hands .
How you figure that?.. I think we have done more...... We do have a class for them . As i recall according to a lot of the posts about the new cars, that is what seems to be the answer by other racers (have a class of their own ). We have had a few Dp's run some this year and i did not see a negative post from the new or old car drivers/owners about what class they ran over here . My hands may be tied to a certain degree but i surely am not sitting on them....and my ears work fine....We did not drop the indexes 3 tenth to solve the problem either.

Danny -- Maybe I'm just misinformed - I didn't know you had a "Special" class for the new cars - what else do you have besides the AA/FI classes ? And where are all the other new cars going to fit? What else have you done -- I'm not looking to throw rocks but to say the IHRA has done more -- well I just haven't seen it ............ Lumping all the new cars into your Fuel Injected classes in OK but is really only a band-aid as there are more and more FI cars as time goes by .

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by art leong

The only way that will happen is if they make you run the natural class only
I think this would be a good start.

Im all for that even with the 1/2 lb breaks. This moving up and down a class to stay away from so and so is a joke. Just adjust your weight within your natural class. When you get hit with enough HP then "SHAZAM" your in a higher class......LOL.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Well, in that case, you lift off the throttle and make sure your opponent is well down track, then you cross the centerline.


-Toby

Spoken like a true Stocker guy ............Always play in the gray area .

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Danny -- Maybe I'm just misinformed - I didn't know you had a "Special" class for the new cars - what else do you have besides the AA/FI classes ? And where are all the other new cars going to fit? What else have you done -- I'm not looking to throw rocks but to say the IHRA has done more -- well I just haven't seen it ............ Lumping all the new cars into your Fuel Injected classes in OK but is really only a band-aid as there are more and more FI cars as time goes by .

Jack, up until now that is all we needed . As soon as we get all specs and in the books , i feel like we will probably will just keep adding the AAFI's, BBFI's , CCFI' s and ect........We never had a Mustang or a DP in A or AA last year.. We really don't have the problem NHRA is having.I know we don't have the car count either ,but if we did i think everyone would be content as we have it. We don't give HP just because they got hit in NHRA. Now when a veh goes fast in IHRA then we try to ajust for that when it happens over here. But we are watching who is fast at other races.......

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Guess I should have said more on this subject Ed -- to make a difference one would have to be a few hundred pounds light and I'm sure if one were caught this light there would be officials to deal with - it is cheating no matter what -- suppose the other guy redlights or something - talk about being redfaced .Great idea but not recommended as it could backfire ...............

Jack, they won't red light in a heads up when they have a half second on you.

Danny, bet you see some at Baton Rouge.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by danny waters sr

Jack, up until now that is all we needed . As soon as we get all specs and in the books , i feel like we will probably will just keep adding the AAFI's, BBFI's , CCFI' s and ect........We never had a Mustang or a DP in A or AA last year.. We really don't have the problem NHRA is having.I know we don't have the car count either ,but if we did i think everyone would be content as we have it. We don't give HP just because they got hit in NHRA. Now when a veh goes fast in IHRA then we try to ajust for that when it happens over here. But we are watching who is fast at other races.......

Maybe I've opened a whole new can of worms for you -- at your first race next season its possible there will be some cars there that can go more than 2 seconds under if you're not following NHRA's lead in giving HP to these cars -- hey Jeff - you listening .............turns out you don't need that Viper deal to be #1 again .Some have complained about going to a gunfight with a knife - but at your deal they have to leave their knife at home ................


PS - I gotta quit this -- damn tree won't put itself up ...........

[danny waters sr]

OK, I give up . You got to have a problem to fix a problem . I guess it will fix itself like the other will. MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

Actually I was smoking up some BBQ chicken - not as good as Jeff's Cajun but it will have to do.

Are you guys talking about actual dyno flywheel HP or some made up HP that is some where between reality and what NHRA makes it after the factory gives a starting point.

I will say it again we all know actual dyno flywheel HP is around 1.5 times the NHRA factored HP

The older cars have had years to get it right and they are still way off - the new ones will get there sooner than the old ones did and as soon as there are new classes to handle real HP everything will be fine.

Are you guys against 6, 6.5 and 7 lb classes - if so why? It would eventually get the new cars which are way faster than the old ones - separated.

If there were already classes to handle really high HP, fast cars this would not have happened

We could do what the federal government tried to do in the early seventies - stop making so much HP.


LOL

:-) peace

if NHRA's HP factors were anywhere near what an actual stocker motor made, your point may be somewhere in the zip code of valid. Right now you are comparing apples and footballs.