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Old 12-12-2010, 07:45 PM   #1
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What did you smoke up before making this post????
Actually I was smoking up some BBQ chicken - not as good as Jeff's Cajun but it will have to do.

Are you guys talking about actual dyno flywheel HP or some made up HP that is some where between reality and what NHRA makes it after the factory gives a starting point.

I will say it again we all know actual dyno flywheel HP is around 1.5 times the NHRA factored HP

The older cars have had years to get it right and they are still way off - the new ones will get there sooner than the old ones did and as soon as there are new classes to handle real HP everything will be fine.

Are you guys against 6, 6.5 and 7 lb classes - if so why? It would eventually get the new cars which are way faster than the old ones - separated.

If there were already classes to handle really high HP, fast cars this would not have happened

We could do what the federal government tried to do in the early seventies - stop making so much HP.


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Actually I was smoking up some BBQ chicken - not as good as Jeff's Cajun but it will have to do.

Are you guys talking about actual dyno flywheel HP or some made up HP that is some where between reality and what NHRA makes it after the factory gives a starting point.

I will say it again we all know actual dyno flywheel HP is around 1.5 times the NHRA factored HP

The older cars have had years to get it right and they are still way off - the new ones will get there sooner than the old ones did and as soon as there are new classes to handle real HP everything will be fine.

Are you guys against 6, 6.5 and 7 lb classes - if so why? It would eventually get the new cars which are way faster than the old ones - separated.

If there were already classes to handle really high HP, fast cars this would not have happened

We could do what the federal government tried to do in the early seventies - stop making so much HP.


LOL

:-) peace
If they get factored beyond the 7.5 lb break then they need to be in S/S ONLY ! If you like to go faster and spend more than that $100,000 then jump in with both feet instead of just sticking your toe in a little bit. .
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If they get factored beyond the 7.5 lb break then they need to be in S/S ONLY ! If you like to go faster and spend more than that $100,000 then jump in with both feet instead of just sticking your toe in a little bit. .
The only way that will happen is if they make you run the natural class only
I think this would be a good start.
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The only way that will happen is if they make you run the natural class only
I think this would be a good start.
Im all for that even with the 1/2 lb breaks. This moving up and down a class to stay away from so and so is a joke. Just adjust your weight within your natural class. When you get hit with enough HP then "SHAZAM" your in a higher class......LOL.
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If they get factored beyond the 7.5 lb break then they need to be in S/S ONLY ! If you like to go faster and spend more than that $100,000 then jump in with both feet instead of just sticking your toe in a little bit. .
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Actually I was smoking up some BBQ chicken - not as good as Jeff's Cajun but it will have to do.

Are you guys talking about actual dyno flywheel HP or some made up HP that is some where between reality and what NHRA makes it after the factory gives a starting point.

I will say it again we all know actual dyno flywheel HP is around 1.5 times the NHRA factored HP

The older cars have had years to get it right and they are still way off - the new ones will get there sooner than the old ones did and as soon as there are new classes to handle real HP everything will be fine.

Are you guys against 6, 6.5 and 7 lb classes - if so why? It would eventually get the new cars which are way faster than the old ones - separated.

If there were already classes to handle really high HP, fast cars this would not have happened

We could do what the federal government tried to do in the early seventies - stop making so much HP.


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:-) peace

if NHRA's HP factors were anywhere near what an actual stocker motor made, your point may be somewhere in the zip code of valid. Right now you are comparing apples and footballs.
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:47 PM   #7
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Default Re: How are the new cars remaining in Stock classes going to affect your racing this

Andy's dad, engines rated 200 hp too low? 300 hp too low? How do come up with some of this? Man, you are embarrassing yourself.
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Andy's dad, engines rated 200 hp too low? 300 hp too low? How do come up with some of this? Man, you are embarrassing yourself.
First of all it is Ron as it says at the bottom of my posts

No Ed you are the one who is embarrassing himself

Now you are making it personal

I do not have time for BS

I get my information from dyno sheets and look at NHRA HP

Any car that can run a second under usually makes 1.5 times the NHRA HP on a DYNO

I have had enough - no more posting until we run

Most of you guys do not have a dog in this hunt anyway
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First of all it is Ron as it says at the bottom of my posts

No Ed you are the one who is embarrassing himself

Now you are making it personal

I do not have time for BS

I get my information from dyno sheets and look at NHRA HP

Any car that can run a second under usually makes 1.5 times the NHRA HP on a DYNO

I have had enough - no more posting until we run

Most of you guys do not have a dog in this hunt anyway
you do realize that the NHRA HP factors are supposed to be an approximation of the the motor was capable of off the showroom floor, not what they make on a dyno in stock trim, right?
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:23 PM   #10
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Chad, I don't think he does.
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