Class versus brackets winning a round

THE LEGEND · 12-01-2010, 10:17 PM

Matt,
You make some good points. HEADS UP is HEADS UP no way around it, but when you put shoe polish on the window it's still a bracket race.

THose class win Wallys are neat too, but you can get a wally or "iron girl" at bracket races now. I have 21 from IHRA races ranging from bracket races, division races,National events, Division champs, and World champs.
IHRA does'nt give wallys for class wins they give plaques. I've got boxes of those too. Got my first one in 1980.
Guys don't get me wrong. I love class cars. I have all the respect in the world for those of you that do that kind of racing. I just wish you would show bracket racers the same.
Chip Johnson

Pedigo Perf · 12-01-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Matt,
You make some good points. HEADS UP is HEADS UP no way around it, but when you put shoe polish on the window it's still a bracket race.

THose class win Wallys are neat too, but you can get a wally or "iron girl" at bracket races now. I have 21 from IHRA races ranging from bracket races, division races,National events, Division champs, and World champs.
IHRA does'nt give wallys for class wins they give plaques. I've got boxes of those too. Got my first one in 1980.
Guys don't get me wrong. I love class cars. I have all the respect in the world for those of you that do that kind of racing. I just wish you would show bracket racers the same.
Chip Johnson

There is something extra exciting about a heads-up race, first to the finish line wins. It's like a little slice of Pro Stock for the sportsman racer.

THE LEGEND · 12-01-2010, 10:31 PM

How many of you guys would class race if you had to win class to race on Sunday the way it was back in the good ole days?

I remember those days.

I bet a lot of you don't.

I also bet you would put street tires on those Camaros and Novas and show up at the Local Sonic on Saturday night instead of trying to out run those DP's and CJ's

THE LEGEND · 12-01-2010, 10:34 PM

Chad,
I agree.
Chip

Ed Fernandez · 12-01-2010, 10:38 PM

This whole subject can be summed up in one sentence:
Class racing isn't for everyone.

Ed Wright · 12-01-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

How many of you guys would class race if you had to win class to race on Sunday the way it was back in the good ole days?

I remember those days.

I bet a lot of you don't.

I also bet you would put street tires on those Camaros and Novas and show up at the Local Sonic on Saturday night instead of trying to out run those DP's and CJ's

I do, I have, and would certainly do it again.

Ed Fernandez · 12-01-2010, 11:24 PM

Another thing.Sometimes we do time shots on Fri,and especially here in Div 1,we sometimes go out Sat right into eliminations.

SS Engine Guy · 12-02-2010, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I do, I have, and would certainly do it again.

Been there done that too....enjoyed it. But that is back in the days that most everyone could work on their own stuff and tech would give you a year off for just about anything. Since then we have been watered down by "cheat of the week" technology backed up by lawyers and threats of lawyers not to mention the "buy your hp factor" that we are forced to contend with. Until tech officials are allowed to enforce the rules without outside interference and factors are with-in 5-10 hp correct (and that will never be because of ahfs) we will continue to be in the same situation which is basically screwed.

Jeff Lee · 12-02-2010, 03:59 AM

This Bracket / Class racing subject gets brought up what...every 3-5 weeks, 6 weeks on the high side? And the same town criers bring it up and the same town criers seem to elevate bracket racing and downgrade class racing.
Most all of us started with bracket racing. There's nothing wrong with bracket racing. I could go and bracket race my stock 2005 Ford Expedition this weekend if I wanted. I could go and rent a 'Vette if I wanted a faster bracket ride. I could literally gather friends and find enough parts, a minimal amount of cash and throw together a 12 second car any week I wanted to and go bracket racing with a "real" race car.
But as I said in my first post, class racings not for everyone. If you don't want to enjoy class racing, whether as a racer or spectator, walk away. And there's a bracket race at every track almost all year long, weather permitting.

Gary Parker · 12-02-2010, 05:42 AM

There is nothing wrong with bracket racing. When I want to help myself stay sharpe, I go to the local track and race brackets with my stocker. And thease guys, and gals are as good as anyone. That being said, Yes most of the time we put a dial in on our cars in the staging lanes, but it is what it took to get us there that is differant. Can anyone tell me the national record in pro et, or super pro. How about the national record in super gas or super street. Records and performance is only part of racing s/ss. Then we still have to get it done on the track. Just my 2 cents

View Poll Results: Dial in and win best or Fastest of a class
Just a win on a dial is #1	8	13.33%
Only winning a class round #1 with rules	26	43.33%
Doesnt matter a win is a win	18	30.00%
BOTH are equal	8	13.33%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

12-01-2010, 10:17 PM	#1
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Class versus brackets winning a round Matt, You make some good points. HEADS UP is HEADS UP no way around it, but when you put shoe polish on the window it's still a bracket race. THose class win Wallys are neat too, but you can get a wally or "iron girl" at bracket races now. I have 21 from IHRA races ranging from bracket races, division races,National events, Division champs, and World champs. IHRA does'nt give wallys for class wins they give plaques. I've got boxes of those too. Got my first one in 1980. Guys don't get me wrong. I love class cars. I have all the respect in the world for those of you that do that kind of racing. I just wish you would show bracket racers the same. Chip Johnson

12-01-2010, 10:31 PM	#3
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Class versus brackets winning a round How many of you guys would class race if you had to win class to race on Sunday the way it was back in the good ole days? I remember those days. I bet a lot of you don't. I also bet you would put street tires on those Camaros and Novas and show up at the Local Sonic on Saturday night instead of trying to out run those DP's and CJ's

12-01-2010, 10:34 PM	#4
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Class versus brackets winning a round Chad, I agree. Chip

12-01-2010, 10:38 PM	#5
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Class versus brackets winning a round This whole subject can be summed up in one sentence: Class racing isn't for everyone. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

12-01-2010, 11:24 PM	#7
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Class versus brackets winning a round Another thing.Sometimes we do time shots on Fri,and especially here in Div 1,we sometimes go out Sat right into eliminations. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

12-02-2010, 03:59 AM	#9
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Class versus brackets winning a round This Bracket / Class racing subject gets brought up what...every 3-5 weeks, 6 weeks on the high side? And the same town criers bring it up and the same town criers seem to elevate bracket racing and downgrade class racing. Most all of us started with bracket racing. There's nothing wrong with bracket racing. I could go and bracket race my stock 2005 Ford Expedition this weekend if I wanted. I could go and rent a 'Vette if I wanted a faster bracket ride. I could literally gather friends and find enough parts, a minimal amount of cash and throw together a 12 second car any week I wanted to and go bracket racing with a "real" race car. But as I said in my first post, class racings not for everyone. If you don't want to enjoy class racing, whether as a racer or spectator, walk away. And there's a bracket race at every track almost all year long, weather permitting. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

12-02-2010, 05:42 AM	#10
Gary Parker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Westfield Mass Posts: 529 Likes: 370 Liked 425 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Class versus brackets winning a round There is nothing wrong with bracket racing. When I want to help myself stay sharpe, I go to the local track and race brackets with my stocker. And thease guys, and gals are as good as anyone. That being said, Yes most of the time we put a dial in on our cars in the staging lanes, but it is what it took to get us there that is differant. Can anyone tell me the national record in pro et, or super pro. How about the national record in super gas or super street. Records and performance is only part of racing s/ss. Then we still have to get it done on the track. Just my 2 cents __________________ Gary Parker 1617 STK