Horsepower Adjustments??? - Page 2

Greg Hill · 09-22-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I hear of a Super Stock 5.9 Magnum DP engine (275 HP factored to 284 HP) that makes 700 HP on the dyno. I was under the impression it was a natural SS/IA class.

, I didn't bother looking the class up as I won't fret until I have a car again.

Jeff that motor is still rated at 275 for SS. That's what's in Mark Nowicki's car. Yes, I did hear ir made 700hp on Jeff Taylor's dyno.

X-TECH MAN · 09-22-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Jeff that motor is still rated at 275 for SS. That's what's in Mark Nowicki's car. Yes, I did hear ir made 700hp on Jeff Taylor's dyno.

It looks like if the NHRA does put the "new junk" in seperate classes for stock the Super Stock guy's will still be screwed....Big Time ! Or at least for the next 10-15 year's until the HP factoring system catches up. Its time for some "Honest" human input for these engines HP rating's. The AHFS system just isn't working. The SS/GT class structure just multiplies the problem.

Dgal · 09-22-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

It looks like if the NHRA does put the "new junk" in seperate classes for stock the Super Stock guy's will still be screwed....Big Time ! Or at least for the next 10-15 year's until the HP factoring system catches up. Its time for some "Honest" human input for these engines HP rating's. The AHFS system just isn't working. The SS/GT class structure just multiplies the problem.

That was exactly what my thoughts were from an earlier post. Putting them in their own class for Stock like the FX class is very easy to implement. Super Stock classes would be a natural extension of those classes, but the GT would be a nightmare.

The best solution would be to refactor the GT horsepower right off the top. It is generally different than the Super Stock rating in most cases anyway.

An early retirement for Gracia would be welcome. It would be great to put Wesley in that position. He probably wouldn't take it if it required him to move to California. Maybe we could convince him that Gracia couldn't do the job from California and there is no reason that Wesley could do any worse from Louisiana.

Bring back the days of proper knobs on the dash and correct sun visors.

Chad Rhodes · 09-22-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgal

That was exactly what my thoughts were from an earlier post. Putting them in their own class for Stock like the FX class is very easy to implement. Super Stock classes would be a natural extension of those classes, but the GT would be a nightmare.

The best solution would be to refactor the GT horsepower right off the top. It is generally different than the Super Stock rating in most cases anyway.

An early retirement for Gracia would be welcome. It would be great to put Wesley in that position. He probably wouldn't take it if it required him to move to California. Maybe we could convince him that Gracia couldn't do the job from California and there is no reason that Wesley could do any worse from Louisiana.

Bring back the days of proper knobs on the dash and correct sun visors.

but he'd never take it

Dgal · 09-22-2010, 10:56 AM

I am sure you are right that he would never take it, but maybe we would get him back to the National events in Division 4 with Gracia gone. It would help the rest of the nation to have Wesley in that position, but I race Division 4 and having him here covers me. That is as long as Gracia's replacement doesn't back stab Wesley on his decisions.

Chad Rhodes · 09-22-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgal

I am sure you are right that he would never take it, but maybe we would get him back to the National events in Division 4 with Gracia gone. It would help the rest of the nation to have Wesley in that position, but I race Division 4 and having him here covers me. That is as long as Gracia's replacement doesn't back stab Wesley on his decisions.

Glendora will only hire a "yes" man, so there goes that chance.

Ed Wright · 09-22-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

Glendora will only hire a "yes" man, so there goes that chance.

A yes man Wesley isn't, that's for sure. LOL!
He also knows enough about actual race engines he would have never would have never bought these bogus combination's hp ratings. I know I'm not the only SS car getting parked for a while over the DP mess. I'm still going to work on it and test, but not going to race until I see how this mess shakes out. Probably run some close IHRA races.

X-TECH MAN · 09-22-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

A yes man Wesley isn't, that's for sure. LOL!
He also knows enough about actual race engines he would have never would have never bought these bogus combination's hp ratings. I know I'm not the only SS car getting parked for a while over the DP mess. I'm still going to work on it and test, but not going to race until I see how this mess shakes out. Probably run some close IHRA races.

Problem with that Ed is the IHRA dosent have a seperate class for the S/S cars (just stock) or SS/GT cars with these bogus engines in them if any should decide to race with IHRA.

Ed Wright · 09-22-2010, 01:56 PM

If IHRA buys those bogus numbers, guess I wont go there either.

Dgal · 09-22-2010, 02:03 PM

I don't think you will see many of the Cobra Jets and Drag Paks at the IHRA events. They won't "lower" themselves. I don't look at it that way. I will go because it is racing and they make it fun.

Since you don't pre-enter at the IHRA events, you could show up and see if there are any cars. I bet it would get their track's attention if you made it known that you are leaving due to how they are classifying the factory race cars.

They may even give you your money back like they did before when you had trouble.

09-22-2010, 10:56 AM	#15
Dgal Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 169 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Horsepower Adjustments??? I am sure you are right that he would never take it, but maybe we would get him back to the National events in Division 4 with Gracia gone. It would help the rest of the nation to have Wesley in that position, but I race Division 4 and having him here covers me. That is as long as Gracia's replacement doesn't back stab Wesley on his decisions.

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Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Horsepower Adjustments??? If IHRA buys those bogus numbers, guess I wont go there either. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

09-22-2010, 02:03 PM	#20
Dgal Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 169 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Horsepower Adjustments??? I don't think you will see many of the Cobra Jets and Drag Paks at the IHRA events. They won't "lower" themselves. I don't look at it that way. I will go because it is racing and they make it fun. Since you don't pre-enter at the IHRA events, you could show up and see if there are any cars. I bet it would get their track's attention if you made it known that you are leaving due to how they are classifying the factory race cars. They may even give you your money back like they did before when you had trouble.