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Old 04-04-2010, 11:20 AM   #61
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The bottom line...Is Jeff correct with his facts regarding specs being in the book for the last 42 years for the 68 Dart/Cuda Hemi cars in stock.

Many of the arguments appeared not to be based on the validity of his facts.
Some ex's...9" tires are way better....Run a 10.5 tire and move to the IHRA....It's April fools... He's a Mopar dealer... etc.

I believe that Art stated it very well.

Also, My hope is that Bruce Noland's predictions that we might be headed in the direction of only two styles with different paint schemes will not be the future of Drag Racing. He stated it perfectly that the heart and sole of Drag Racing would be lost.
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:44 PM   #62
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Also, My hope is that Bruce Noland's predictions that we might be headed in the direction of only two styles with different paint schemes will not be the future of Drag Racing. He stated it perfectly that the heart and sole of Drag Racing would be lost.
As long as there are people like myself and the Bruce Noland's of the world who may not agree on the validity of the CJ's and DP's but the common ground is the "Heart and Soul of Drag Racing " it will survive .............Most racers are not ready to quit because of the sheer existance of these new cars .
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:22 PM   #63
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I agree Jeff. If not let us pick a stock class where all these cars can run against each other with acceptable replacement parts. We should do this in SS as well. I called for it 4 years ago and have been pushing for it every since. There is no reason for these cars to be exempted for no good reason.

It would also include, Stage II Buicks, RA-V Pontiacs, L88 Corverttes, Hemi cars, 421SD cars with heads like the Hemi guys get as replacements, Tunnel Port Fords, SOHC Fords, AMC dual quad 390s, High Port 427 Ford and all the factory "RACE" cars.

However, allowing some run and other not because of race gerrymandering is unacceptable.

Yes that's the only "fair" way to apply the crate motor rule to everyone equally. Most if not all of the cars you mentioned were built outside the factory production line. And don't forget Conway's Corvette.
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Old 04-04-2010, 05:50 PM   #64
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Scott, where did your SS/A 67 L88 Vette end up? - saw the car run at Ennis in the late 80's, nice piece.
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Old 04-04-2010, 06:33 PM   #65
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Yes that's the only "fair" way to apply the crate motor rule to everyone equally. Most if not all of the cars you mentioned were built outside the factory production line. And don't forget Conway's Corvette.
Thanks Scott,

I had also proposed to NHRA that a GT/AH class be created at 6.0 where we can run those type engines in GT cars. The GTAA cars now at 8.0 for the high horsepower cars running 1000lbs heavier just doesnt wash. NHRA changed GT cars forever when they allowed the 2670lb car. Especially when the changed the wording on the 2500lb minimum.

Wouldnt a 428 Tunnel port Grand AM against a 427 Cobalt heads up at 6.0 be cool?
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:27 PM   #66
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Wouldnt a 428 Tunnel port Grand AM against a 427 Cobalt heads up at 6.0 be cool?[/QUOTE]

But Lynn.....That would steal the spot light from the multi millionaires Hemi 'Cudas and Darts. Ya cant have that with all the $$$$ Chrysler dumps into NHRA.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:07 PM   #67
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Someone proposed the '49 Hudson Hornet....

CAN'T DO THAT!! NO HUDSON HORNETS WE'RE BUILT 'TIL 1951!!!!

Uh, wait a minute.... strike that. I forgot the new rules; it's "crate motor" time in NHRA Stock!!!

Sorry; I get so confused....
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:28 AM   #68
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Wouldnt a 428 Tunnel port Grand AM against a 427 Cobalt heads up at 6.0 be cool?
No... But a Challenger Drag Pak vs a new Cobra Jet Mustang would be very cool. Current Factory cars fighting it out like the old days. To bad Pontiac is going gone/away a GTO would be cool in the mix.

I'd also like to see :

1. Fully super stock prepared 2010 CJ Mustang heads up against the fastest SS/AH(Barton/Daniels or Wescotts). Maybe there's finally going to be something new at the top??? New Mustangs already pushing 152 mph, how long did it take the hemi's to get to that level?

2.Oakes with Armstrong power vs the Big Bad Red Roush Mustang heads up in SS/DA or SS/CA. My moneys on the stang even tough I'd like to see Brian win.

3. Any new camaro drag pack option(come on GM)

4.Mopar figures a way to allow a 392 hemi with a supercharger like the Cobra Jets. Then it will really get fun...


These threads are more fun than the National Inquirer to read..thanks for all the fun over my morning coffee.

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Old 04-05-2010, 04:36 PM   #69
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Tech man, those 'multimillion darts & cudas' were devalued severly last year. Humbling is what you call it. But you know, an old Barton motor and a good car is an excellent bracket car. We did that last year. Anybody need any old SS/AH motors?
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Old 04-05-2010, 04:41 PM   #70
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Mopar will soon release an all aluminum block probably capable of over 1000 hp in 426 and 440 based on the current 6.1 Hemi design. Same heads as the current DP cars, big one barrel throttle body, maybe something for the blown crowd also. Crate motors & parts. But you know how those 'crate motors' move around from car to car.
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