Proposal for Old Cars in Stock

[bubski]

this is great where was all the bitching as nhra slowly enhanced stock? aftermarket heads, blocks, rods, carbs, no more cam spec other than lift, valve springpressure, 700.00$ lifters etc etc. no one cared because they all thought that any of these things could give them a edge on the next guy.now that they will never have an advantage over these newer combos its cryin time. but if the shoe was on the other foot and thier combo got some bogus parts that would be great.on the other hand nhra should make a crate motor class for these new cars. you cant kick them out now but you can try to make it fair. look at ihra 15 out of 20 top qualifiers in stock are crate motor, but they have thier own class so thier not peeing in the pool of traditional combos. everyone pissed and moaned ihra isnt true stock eliminator now look at what you got makes ihra look pretty good

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by bubski

this is great where was all the bitching as nhra slowly enhanced stock? aftermarket heads, blocks, rods, carbs, no more cam spec other than lift, valve springpressure, 700.00$ lifters etc etc. no one cared because they all thought that any of these things could give them a edge on the next guy.now that they will never have an advantage over these newer combos its cryin time. but if the shoe was on the other foot and thier combo got some bogus parts that would be great.on the other hand nhra should make a crate motor class for these new cars. you cant kick them out now but you can try to make it fair. look at ihra 15 out of 20 top qualifiers in stock are crate motor, but they have thier own class so thier not peeing in the pool of traditional combos. everyone pissed and moaned ihra isnt true stock eliminator now look at what you got makes ihra look pretty good

It's called human nature.

[Lynn A McCarty]

I agree Jeff. If not let us pick a stock class where all these cars can run against each other with acceptable replacement parts. We should do this in SS as well. I called for it 4 years ago and have been pushing for it every since. There is no reason for these cars to be exempted for no good reason.

It would also include, Stage II Buicks, RA-V Pontiacs, L88 Corverttes, Hemi cars, 421SD cars with heads like the Hemi guys get as replacements, Tunnel Port Fords, SOHC Fords, AMC dual quad 390s, High Port 427 Ford and all the factory "RACE" cars.

However, allowing some run and other not because of race gerrymandering is unacceptable.

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty

I agree Jeff. If not let us pick a stock class where all these cars can run against each other with acceptable replacement parts. We should do this in SS as well. I called for it 4 years ago and have been pushing for it every since. There is no reason for these cars to be exempted for no good reason.

It would also include, Stage II Buicks, RA-V Pontiacs, L88 Corverttes, Hemi cars, 421SD cars with heads like the Hemi guys get as replacements, Tunnel Port Fords, SOHC Fords, AMC dual quad 390s, High Port 427 Ford and all the factory "RACE" cars.

However, allowing some run and other not because of race gerrymandering is unacceptable.

Yes that's the only "fair" way to apply the crate motor rule to everyone equally. Most if not all of the cars you mentioned were built outside the factory production line. And don't forget Conway's Corvette.

Scott, where did your SS/A 67 L88 Vette end up? - saw the car run at Ennis in the late 80's, nice piece.

[Lynn A McCarty]

Originally Posted by Pvt Parts

Yes that's the only "fair" way to apply the crate motor rule to everyone equally. Most if not all of the cars you mentioned were built outside the factory production line. And don't forget Conway's Corvette.

Thanks Scott,

I had also proposed to NHRA that a GT/AH class be created at 6.0 where we can run those type engines in GT cars. The GTAA cars now at 8.0 for the high horsepower cars running 1000lbs heavier just doesnt wash. NHRA changed GT cars forever when they allowed the 2670lb car. Especially when the changed the wording on the 2500lb minimum.

Wouldnt a 428 Tunnel port Grand AM against a 427 Cobalt heads up at 6.0 be cool?

[X-TECH MAN]

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Wouldnt a 428 Tunnel port Grand AM against a 427 Cobalt heads up at 6.0 be cool?[/QUOTE]

But Lynn.....That would steal the spot light from the multi millionaires Hemi 'Cudas and Darts. Ya cant have that with all the $$$$ Chrysler dumps into NHRA.

[bill dedman]

Someone proposed the '49 Hudson Hornet....

CAN'T DO THAT!! NO HUDSON HORNETS WE'RE BUILT 'TIL 1951!!!!

Uh, wait a minute.... strike that. I forgot the new rules; it's "crate motor" time in NHRA Stock!!!

Sorry; I get so confused....

[Alex Polewik]

Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty

Wouldnt a 428 Tunnel port Grand AM against a 427 Cobalt heads up at 6.0 be cool?

No... But a Challenger Drag Pak vs a new Cobra Jet Mustang would be very cool. Current Factory cars fighting it out like the old days. To bad Pontiac is going gone/away a GTO would be cool in the mix.

I'd also like to see :

1. Fully super stock prepared 2010 CJ Mustang heads up against the fastest SS/AH(Barton/Daniels or Wescotts). Maybe there's finally going to be something new at the top??? New Mustangs already pushing 152 mph, how long did it take the hemi's to get to that level?

2.Oakes with Armstrong power vs the Big Bad Red Roush Mustang heads up in SS/DA or SS/CA. My moneys on the stang even tough I'd like to see Brian win.

3. Any new camaro drag pack option(come on GM)

4.Mopar figures a way to allow a 392 hemi with a supercharger like the Cobra Jets. Then it will really get fun...


These threads are more fun than the National Inquirer to read..thanks for all the fun over my morning coffee.

Having fun,
Alex

[Jeff Teuton]

Tech man, those 'multimillion darts & cudas' were devalued severly last year. Humbling is what you call it. But you know, an old Barton motor and a good car is an excellent bracket car. We did that last year. Anybody need any old SS/AH motors?