08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S - Page 4

Bruce Noland · 03-14-2010, 02:01 PM

Bob,
Please take the time to read my post which you quoted. We all know about the glitch on the sheet.

AC · 03-14-2010, 02:10 PM

that is a pretty stout run..

treessavoy · 03-14-2010, 03:00 PM

I'm not griping about the new Mustangs even though it's made my Max Wedge obsolete before I finish it, but I have a question.

In the past the NHRA has moved special cars like these straight into SS due to there limited availability and the fact that they were not available for the street ie: '68 Hemi cars, A990 Mopars, '64 aluminum Hemi cars, etc. Specialty built cars went to SS, so why is this instance different?

Here's something to ponder, forget about the fact that the following cars don't fit the Stock weights, but what would happen if they let the '65 A990 Hemi cars into Stock along with the same '64 aluminum Hemi cars? Would they even be competitive against the blown Mustangs?

JimR

Rory McNeil · 03-14-2010, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy

In the past the NHRA has moved special cars like these straight into SS due to there limited availability and the fact that they were not available for the street ie: '68 Hemi cars, A990 Mopars, '64 aluminum Hemi cars, etc. Specialty built cars went to SS, so why is this instance different? However, now that the "Big Fish" may be under attack, attitudes seem to have changed.

JimR

Jim, I`m pretty sure the reason that the 68 Hemi Darts & Cudas, 64 Hemi cars etc were in S/S rather than Stock was not due to them being purpose built, non street duty cars, but rather simply the NHRA HP/weight factor. Since NHRA opened up the AA/S & SA classes for cars that would have been previously factored "too low" for A, ie under 8lbs per HP, that opened up the possibility for the "new" race package" cars, as well as some older cars that were under the 8 lb thresh hold, like the 64 Ford Fairlane ThunderBolt, and the 427 2x4 barrel 66-67 Fairlanes, as well as several others from Mopar & GM, I believe. As for the seperate "forced induction" classes some are asking for, nobody seemed to get bent out of shape when the FWD Turbo MoPars were always qualifying at the top in Stock, maybe because these "lower class" cars didn`t concern most of the upper class racers, and due to inconsistancy, didn`t prove to be a major threat once eliminations were under way.

SS Engine Guy · 03-14-2010, 03:37 PM

Just wondering? Hows that minus -3 tenths working for us?

Bob Moulton · 03-14-2010, 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=Bruce Noland;174949]Bob,
Please take the time to read my post which you quoted. We all know about the glitch on the sheet.[/QUOTE Bruce, could your explain your post to me if I misunderstood it. If you don't count the AA/s run, the next fastest CJ Qualified in the 20's at .7plus under. You all know the glitch on the sheet now, but not one apologized for all the chatter before it was corrected. I stand by my referance to calling you guys Politicians. Even when the facts are wrong, you think your not!!!!!!!!

Bruce Noland · 03-14-2010, 04:04 PM

Bob,
Check the stats for these cars from last year. And we ain't politicians but of course you can stand by your statement all you please.

Jack Matyas · 03-14-2010, 04:21 PM

[QUOTE=Bob Moulton;174972]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Bob,
Please take the time to read my post which you quoted. We all know about the glitch on the sheet.[/QUOTE Bruce, could your explain your post to me if I misunderstood it. If you don't count the AA/s run, the next fastest CJ Qualified in the 20's at .7plus under. You all know the glitch on the sheet now, but not one apologized for all the chatter before it was corrected. I stand by my referance to calling you guys Politicians. Even when the facts are wrong, you think your not!!!!!!!!

Bruce -- Seems like you ruffled more than a few feathers here - your entitled to your opinion like anyone else but your "Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" attitude just doesn't cut it and maybe , just maybe you should backtrack a little bit ....or just go out into the garage and resume working on that Corvette of yours ! ! ! Or are you looking for a bridge ....................

Ernie Neal · 03-14-2010, 04:28 PM

Here is a band-aid for the ford situation AA/SF and AA/SFA looks like they may need their own index anyway. It will not hurt NHRA other than a couple more class trophies, occasionally. Of course, if the manufactures keep up the good (hp) work and availability of buying a factory race car, they may eventually have to make some 5 lb classes.

Curious, was Don Fezell a stocker racer prior to 2009? I couldn't find anything earlier on DRC search.

keep smiling!
Ernie

Bruce Noland · 03-14-2010, 05:14 PM

Jack,
I think I'll look elsewhere to find a role model for advice. But thanks just the same. BTW, I never said anything about being angry. Just my 2 cents worth thats all.

The CJ's numbers from this moring: 60' = 1.418, 330' = 4.022, 660' = 6.185, @113.68mph, 1000' = 8.052, 1/4 = 9.623 @ 143.57mph. I think that is the most mph run by a Stocker at an nhra event. How many times has this car been raced?

03-14-2010, 02:01 PM	#31
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S Bob, Please take the time to read my post which you quoted. We all know about the glitch on the sheet. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

03-14-2010, 02:10 PM	#32
AC Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 170 Likes: 29 Liked 66 Times in 23 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S that is a pretty stout run..

03-14-2010, 03:00 PM	#33
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S I'm not griping about the new Mustangs even though it's made my Max Wedge obsolete before I finish it, but I have a question. In the past the NHRA has moved special cars like these straight into SS due to there limited availability and the fact that they were not available for the street ie: '68 Hemi cars, A990 Mopars, '64 aluminum Hemi cars, etc. Specialty built cars went to SS, so why is this instance different? Here's something to ponder, forget about the fact that the following cars don't fit the Stock weights, but what would happen if they let the '65 A990 Hemi cars into Stock along with the same '64 aluminum Hemi cars? Would they even be competitive against the blown Mustangs? JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

03-14-2010, 03:37 PM	#35
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S Just wondering? Hows that minus -3 tenths working for us?

03-14-2010, 03:59 PM	#36
Bob Moulton Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 52 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S [QUOTE=Bruce Noland;174949]Bob, Please take the time to read my post which you quoted. We all know about the glitch on the sheet.[/QUOTE Bruce, could your explain your post to me if I misunderstood it. If you don't count the AA/s run, the next fastest CJ Qualified in the 20's at .7plus under. You all know the glitch on the sheet now, but not one apologized for all the chatter before it was corrected. I stand by my referance to calling you guys Politicians. Even when the facts are wrong, you think your not!!!!!!!!

03-14-2010, 04:04 PM	#37
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S Bob, Check the stats for these cars from last year. And we ain't politicians but of course you can stand by your statement all you please. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

03-14-2010, 04:28 PM	#39
Ernie Neal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, Indiana Posts: 531 Likes: 170 Liked 328 Times in 80 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S Here is a band-aid for the ford situation AA/SF and AA/SFA looks like they may need their own index anyway. It will not hurt NHRA other than a couple more class trophies, occasionally. Of course, if the manufactures keep up the good (hp) work and availability of buying a factory race car, they may eventually have to make some 5 lb classes. Curious, was Don Fezell a stocker racer prior to 2009? I couldn't find anything earlier on DRC search. keep smiling! Ernie

03-14-2010, 05:14 PM	#40
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S Jack, I think I'll look elsewhere to find a role model for advice. But thanks just the same. BTW, I never said anything about being angry. Just my 2 cents worth thats all. The CJ's numbers from this moring: 60' = 1.418, 330' = 4.022, 660' = 6.185, @113.68mph, 1000' = 8.052, 1/4 = 9.623 @ 143.57mph. I think that is the most mph run by a Stocker at an nhra event. How many times has this car been raced? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 03-14-2010 at 05:44 PM.