Phoenix Nat'l Racers Please Respond

[Mark Yacavone]

I agree with Jeff. Ever since I've lived out here, I've found that there's something wrong with Firebird, traction wise.
I've had 14 second street cars that would never turn a tire at Speedworld and would skate around at FB. I was at a FFW about five years ago in the late Fall on a cool day. When the Bracket Two cars started bouncing off the walls , they had to plug the plug to re-do the track. They worked on it most of the night, but it was no better on Sunday morning.

In all fairness , it was fine for the Bracket Finals . Weather was still warm and there were about 600 cars running down the track all the time.
The Nat's are usually okay, but I think , when that track is cold, it's unsafe to run on ,for some reason.

[Bryan Worner]

I raced at the Phoenix National Event last year and will say that it was the worst track I raced on all year!!! The top end is very bumpy and all cracked up! The shut down area is even worse. I thought my rear end was broke after my first run there!!! It turned out to be the roughness of the track! I won't go back there until that track is resurfaced!!

[davidhuff]

I was at the track at 7am and the pits and track was a s**t hole.The pro stock cars had loaded up and left.

[joe176]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

I raced at the Phoenix National Event last year and will say that it was the worst track I raced on all year!!! The top end is very bumpy and all cracked up! The shut down area is even worse. I thought my rear end was broke after my first run there!!! It turned out to be the roughness of the track! I won't go back there until that track is resurfaced!!

And they go and dump VA from the schedule...the fan count in the stands did not look good on TV....why keep this track on a Nat event schedule and drop VA is beyond me.

[herbjr]

Not one person responded on how they treated the sportsman racer. If that was IHRA it would be ON.

Herb Jr

[Pat Cook]

Sounds like Charlie needs to spend some money on the place

[aspen7709]

this is all well and good....Dont go there,dont race, dont do this or that but when it comes to it we still go.Why? Because "cheap" charlie is the only national/divisional game in town.Yes we get tucson but it is only a div race and not alot of people go especially spectators.We dont have IHRA and other good tracks are at least 300 miles away.Speed world is good but it is 2 hours from my house each way and it is a "local " track.It will NEVER host a national or get a divisional again.the national open had 9 cars????I am goin to the divisional, why because I need points and that is the only div I can hit close.Hell my shop is trying to get a vendor booth and we cant even get a return phone call! yeah it sucks but anybody else got a better idea???? i am all ears!

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by aspen7709

this is all well and good....Dont go there,dont race, dont do this or that but when it comes to it we still go.Why? Because "cheap" charlie is the only national/divisional game in town.Yes we get tucson but it is only a div race and not alot of people go especially spectators.We dont have IHRA and other good tracks are at least 300 miles away.Speed world is good but it is 2 hours from my house each way and it is a "local " track.It will NEVER host a national or get a divisional again.the national open had 9 cars????I am goin to the divisional, why because I need points and that is the only div I can hit close.Hell my shop is trying to get a vendor booth and we cant even get a return phone call! yeah it sucks but anybody else got a better idea???? i am all ears!

So having a good chance of you or someone in the other lane smacking you because you say the owner doesn't give two $hits doesn't deter you from going there?
I'd like to see how long it would take you to dial Dirt bag & Dirt bag Esq. to setup a law suit,if you survive.
We had a situation at Atco a few years ago where the winds were brutal.I don't know for sure who was the lead motivator,NHRA,Joe Sway or the racers,but elims were
postponed to Mon after I believe trying 1/8 mile.I heard some guys bitching and moaning.
Their decision to wait was fine with me.I guess by human nature there will always be those who can't be satisfied.
Some track owners and racing orgs. depend on people who think like you to keep up with their schemes to stay in business..

[MattConte]

Originally Posted by Pat Cook

Sounds like Charlie needs to spend some money on the place

LOL!!!!! never happen. This place has had problems like this, just not as bad, sense when I raced out there in the 80s and in the mid 90s. Speedworld has always been better. I remember when they use to do the Div 7 opener out at Speedworld in Wittman Az. I remember talking to out of town racers back then who raced at firebird the week before at the Nats. They all would say how much better it was racing at Speedworld. That was the mid 90s. I was bummed when the Opener moved to Firebird.
Matt