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Old 02-16-2010, 07:44 PM   #41
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You guys can bicker all you want but here's the bottom line:

NHRA penalty: $1000

EPA penalty: Felony conviction

Which would you rather have again?
Bret, you might want to re-think the felony part. It should be a civil penalty by the EPA but that is as far as it goes unless you kill someone and first you have to be convicted. Remember you are innocent until proven guilty even with the EPA.
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Old 02-16-2010, 08:16 PM   #42
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Art, no NHRA may not be able to collect..........but you'll not race either!
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Old 02-16-2010, 08:31 PM   #43
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Ask Don Schumaker (SP) about his $100,000.00 fine over nitro...and he paid it. NHRA can do it and has done it.
He makes a substantial part of his income due to drag racing. How many sportsman racers would pay that kind of a fine. And besides I'll bet they came to a compromise on the amount.
If they were to fine me $1000 for some trivial infraction. First I'd get a lawyer to get me off on the assault charges. Then I'd never race NHRA again.
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Old 02-16-2010, 08:37 PM   #44
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Schumacher has NOTHING to do with this subject.Research your post be fore you post on it.Wake up.

Here's the Schumacher story about his fine.Nothing to do with environmental.


Don Schumacher Racing responds to NHRA record fine
By ROB GEIGER The NHRA fined mega-team owner Don Schumacher a record $100,000 for having four barrels of unauthorized nitromethane fuel in his pit area at the recently completed national event in Las Vegas.

The amount of the fine and the fact that NHRA senior vice president of racing operations Graham Light decided to announce the seemingly minor infraction live on ESPN2 are a bit perplexing for the usually tight-lipped sanctioning body.

First of all, Schumacher wasn't using the cheaper fuel in competition; he was saving it for Monday testing. Second, while Light was speaking, ESPN2 showed footage of the U.S. Army dragster driven by Schumacher's son Tony, the reigning five-time series champion, in the background--which implied that the Army team was involved in some way.

A brief NHRA statement said that all nitromethane fuel in the professional pits must come from an approved NHRA supplier. The only on-site provider of nitromethane is VP Fuels, which leads readers of the rulebook to assume that VP is the fuel they must use, although VP is not mentioned by name. In fact, no company is mentioned by name, an oversight that NHRA spokesman Jerry Archambeault admits should be addressed.

Schumacher's four barrels were leftovers from a test session last October at the Strip at Las Vegas Motor Speedway, which had been stored in Vegas over the winter. Schumacher got into the nitromethane-distribution business himself in 2004 to combat rising nitro costs. For the past four years, he's used the fuel when testing his armada of Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars.

In January, Schumacher sold his entire inventory to WEGO, including the four barrels stored in Las Vegas. He then bought those four barrels back for testing that his team had planned for the Monday after the event



Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/2008...#ixzz0fkigmJgv
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Old 02-16-2010, 08:58 PM   #45
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If brake clean causes global warming I am going to buy a truck load and spray it in the air!

G-d@mn AL gore lied and I am up to my *^%^ in snow!
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:07 PM   #46
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Bret, you might want to re-think the felony part.
I don't have to rethink it, 63. I was in the middle of it when the EPA took direct aim on indoor motorsports in the late 1980s. I know all about the felonies, the responsibility, the litigation and the unbridled power of a government agency bent on policing a motorsport. I was the guy who (repeatedly) got to tell 10,000 paying fans that the EPA just shut down the event and it was time to go home.

You guys have NO IDEA what you're up against but feel free to "wait 'til November". LMAO!
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:10 PM   #47
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I didn't know NHRA has the right to impose fines on anyone. I'm pretty sure that is restricted to government agencies.
You're kidding, right? You can't possibly have survived this long without watching any other sport on the planet. I won't even BEGIN to list the drag racing examples.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:20 PM   #48
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unbridled power of a government agency
Unbridled and unaccountable. Keep an eye on our Regulatory Czar Cass Sunstein, and the other "powers that be." They're looking out for your best interest...

They've already hinted that if they can't get Cap & Trade through Congress, they'll just do an end-run and start piecing it together through the EPA.

Canada's fight over leaded race fuels is merely the beginning. I think we're in for a lot of news over the next few years.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:21 PM   #49
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Agreed, Beard...and I can't believe we've survived under the radar this long.
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Old 02-16-2010, 11:27 PM   #50
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I am a little confused as i have not seen any sportsman abuse the epa deal but i would like for some to look at the pits after a race and see who has created the biggest problem ??? i just can't seem to remember what group makes the biggest mess ? can anyone remind my memory?? i am confused ???
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