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Art, no NHRA may not be able to collect..........but you'll not race either!
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I don't have to rethink it, 63. I was in the middle of it when the EPA took direct aim on indoor motorsports in the late 1980s. I know all about the felonies, the responsibility, the litigation and the unbridled power of a government agency bent on policing a motorsport. I was the guy who (repeatedly) got to tell 10,000 paying fans that the EPA just shut down the event and it was time to go home.
You guys have NO IDEA what you're up against but feel free to "wait 'til November". LMAO! |
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Unbridled and unaccountable. Keep an eye on our Regulatory Czar Cass Sunstein, and the other "powers that be." They're looking out for your best interest...
![]() They've already hinted that if they can't get Cap & Trade through Congress, they'll just do an end-run and start piecing it together through the EPA. Canada's fight over leaded race fuels is merely the beginning. I think we're in for a lot of news over the next few years.
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Agreed, Beard...and I can't believe we've survived under the radar this long.
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I am a little confused as i have not seen any sportsman abuse the epa deal but i would like for some to look at the pits after a race and see who has created the biggest problem ??? i just can't seem to remember what group makes the biggest mess ? can anyone remind my memory?? i am confused ???
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Ed you are the person who needs a wake up call. You wrote that you did know NHRA had the right to fine people. I pointed out that they did in fact fine Don $100K and Don paid it.
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When I retired I was responsible for all the environmental permits and issues for a rather large gas pipeline operation in 15 states from Arizona east to the mid-west and up to the Canadian border. First off the States were delegated the responsibilities for enforcement by the EPA some years ago. The states are first in line with any violations. Most states have a DNR or something like it (Department of Natural Resources) which is the state version of the EPA. The Federal Government EPA sets the rules for the state enforcement as a minimum and the states can add on as they see fit to a certain point. The states enforce and issue fines and enforcement mandates. Like I stated earlier the only Felony would be if someone lost their life due to an issue of Environmental Quality. Civil penalties can be issued by the state and federal government but a Felony would have to be a crime of some type. A Felony must be prosecuted through a Law Enforcement Action and must be proved in a Court Of Law. Government can make your life miserable and levy fines on top of that but a Felony is a serious charge and a Law Enforcement Action. If you would like to discuss it give me a call sometime. I am retired and with the cold and snow in the Texas panhandle right now I have lots of time as the shop is pretty cold right now. Rick Cates Canyon TX |
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Understood, Rick. I will add, however, that a racer who dumped his motorhome tanks in the staging lanes (in a fit of rage) at Gateway five years ago would also have faced felony charges. The track learned this when they contacted the EPA while deciding to press charges.
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