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Old 09-28-2009, 10:42 AM   #1
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That does make more sense, so it's all about weight. I guess you would have to get creative in how you add that much to the car, since you can only have 100lbs. of ballast. Does 14HP really = 112lbs? That should be about 1/10th of a second too.
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That does make more sense, so it's all about weight. I guess you would have to get creative in how you add that much to the car, since you can only have 100lbs. of ballast. Does 14HP really = 112lbs? That should be about 1/10th of a second too.
It depends on the class. A/SA is an 8 lbs per cubic inch class, and 14x8= 112 lbs. AA/SA is 7.5 lbs/in and it goes down in half lb increments for the most part.
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It depends on the class. A/SA is an 8 lbs per cubic inch class, and 14x8= 112 lbs. AA/SA is 7.5 lbs/in and it goes down in half lb increments for the most part.
Is there someplace you can see this information broken down by class?
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Is there someplace you can see this information broken down by class?
The rule book has the weight break for each class, and NHRA's website has links to excel files that show the horsepower factors for each combination.

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The rule book has the weight break for each class, and NHRA's website has links to excel files that show the horsepower factors for each combination.

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http://www.nhra.com/competition/classification.aspx
So if my combo has a factor of 15.01, then I would have to add 15.01 pounds for every horsepower they assess?
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So if my combo has a factor of 15.01, then I would have to add 15.01 pounds for every horsepower they assess?
No, 15.01 is the factor that determines what class your car falls in. Say the rated horsepower was 250 and the shipping weight was 3753, this would give a factor of 15.01. O/SA is the natural class for car with factors of 15.00-15.99. This means that you could in N/SA, O/SA, or P/SA at their appropriate weight breaks. This car would have to weigh (15x250) + 170= 3920 lbs in O/SA. If the horsepower rating were changed to 255, the factor would be 3753 (shipping weight) divided by 255 (the new horsepower rating) which is 14.72. This would make it a natural N/SA car and it could run M/SA through O/SA at the appropriate weights.
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So if my combo has a factor of 15.01, then I would have to add 15.01 pounds for every horsepower they assess?
Any car that goes more than -1.40 under the Index, has to add 3.25% to the at-the-time HP rating. Max Wedge 426/415 = 415 x .0325 = 13.4875. All numbers are rounded up, so it's 14 HP, and your car is a now a 426/429.
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I think I am starting to see the light. So at 1.15 under raises eyebrows, and 1.40 is automatic horsepower? Is it a one time offense, and you suffer the consequences, or do you have to back it up like a national record?
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