The rumor of the day

Bobby Zlatkin · 09-21-2009, 10:16 AM

I would love to see this. Yes, make it a level playing field.

Chad, if NHRA cared about tradition, the '55 - '57 Chevy's would still be running stock elim.

7820 · 09-21-2009, 10:20 AM

No red or win lights will be shown till the second car launches....so a crew member with a radio won't help.

Bob Pagano · 09-21-2009, 11:03 AM

If you are chasing and red comes on even after 60 ft you have plenty time to shut down. The only way it mite work if it dose not come on till you clear the traps, both cars.

7820 · 09-21-2009, 11:17 AM

As it stands today if the first to launch goes red the second to launch knows the first to launch red lite because his win light comes on. Nothing changes but to make it a much more fair race.

treessavoy · 09-21-2009, 11:38 AM

This is bull.

What is it's purpose?

We've had the "first is worst" rule for decades, why fool around with this rule now?

And as for the '55-'57 chevy rule, I would like to remind you brand "X" guys that other cars were actually built during that era and that '57 Fords outsold '57 chevys during that year. Wouldn't be nice if you let the other cars play too?

JimR

John Kelley · 09-21-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

If you are chasing and red comes on even after 60 ft you have plenty time to shut down. The only way it mite work if it dose not come on till you clear the traps, both cars.

But the faster car could lose because of the WORST red light.......
When the RED LIGHT did come on so would the WIN LIGHT on the scoreboards !
The WINNER has already been decided as soon as the fast car leaves the starting line !

Jack McCarthy · 09-21-2009, 11:48 AM

just when i thought it would never happen...
someone is considering a rule change for fairness !

jack mccarthy

i notice the negative posts are all from million dollar boys...
what do ya think bob shaw, ellis buth, stephenson, pohill... hey guys wake up.

mbrace5 · 09-21-2009, 12:07 PM

Thats what they need to do! Take all the advantages of building a fast stocker away. Cool, now we can all build wheel standing 4 door impala wagon 6 cylinders and really get the spectators to watch! NHRA would love to have us then!

CFM · 09-21-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mbrace5

Thats what they need to do! Take all the advantages of building a fast stocker away. Cool, now we can all build wheel standing 4 door impala wagon 6 cylinders and really get the spectators to watch! NHRA would love to have us then!

That hurts Mark.

buzzinhalfdozen · 09-21-2009, 12:17 PM

Well if we're going there why not go by who has the best light? I've been chased and been doing the chasing I fail to see the need for a rule change. Years ago when there were no reaction times on ET slips how many times did you shake your head and say " man how did I lose that race?" Now I have to agree it is not good to have the first shot at redlighting, however if we start asking for rule changes like this what will be the next "problem?" that we need a rule change for?Being the faster car does have it's advantages....and disadvantages. Some of the quicker cars are more dependant on the track"being there" also having the guy in full view the entire run can make you start deciding your finish line plan too soon, the lists go on on both sides. I hope most of you don't want something like S.P. started in IHRA with things being decided by "best package" well maybe they should go to that best package wins no matter what. Bottom line is first or second shot at the tree I doubt that even if this rule were implemented it would really change the outcome of many races. Just my thoughts. Joe

09-21-2009, 10:16 AM	#1
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The rumor of the day I would love to see this. Yes, make it a level playing field. Chad, if NHRA cared about tradition, the '55 - '57 Chevy's would still be running stock elim. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

09-21-2009, 10:20 AM	#2
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The rumor of the day No red or win lights will be shown till the second car launches....so a crew member with a radio won't help.

09-21-2009, 11:03 AM	#3
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 241 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: The rumor of the day If you are chasing and red comes on even after 60 ft you have plenty time to shut down. The only way it mite work if it dose not come on till you clear the traps, both cars. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

09-21-2009, 11:17 AM	#4
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The rumor of the day As it stands today if the first to launch goes red the second to launch knows the first to launch red lite because his win light comes on. Nothing changes but to make it a much more fair race.

09-21-2009, 11:38 AM	#5
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: The rumor of the day This is bull. What is it's purpose? We've had the "first is worst" rule for decades, why fool around with this rule now? And as for the '55-'57 chevy rule, I would like to remind you brand "X" guys that other cars were actually built during that era and that '57 Fords outsold '57 chevys during that year. Wouldn't be nice if you let the other cars play too? JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

09-21-2009, 11:48 AM	#7
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 477 Times in 117 Posts	Re: The rumor of the day just when i thought it would never happen... someone is considering a rule change for fairness ! jack mccarthy i notice the negative posts are all from million dollar boys... what do ya think bob shaw, ellis buth, stephenson, pohill... hey guys wake up. __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

09-21-2009, 12:07 PM	#8
mbrace5 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shelby,NC Posts: 89 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The rumor of the day Thats what they need to do! Take all the advantages of building a fast stocker away. Cool, now we can all build wheel standing 4 door impala wagon 6 cylinders and really get the spectators to watch! NHRA would love to have us then! __________________ Mark Beaver #290 C/SA 98 Camaro, SS/J-KA

09-21-2009, 12:17 PM	#10
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: The rumor of the day Well if we're going there why not go by who has the best light? I've been chased and been doing the chasing I fail to see the need for a rule change. Years ago when there were no reaction times on ET slips how many times did you shake your head and say " man how did I lose that race?" Now I have to agree it is not good to have the first shot at redlighting, however if we start asking for rule changes like this what will be the next "problem?" that we need a rule change for?Being the faster car does have it's advantages....and disadvantages. Some of the quicker cars are more dependant on the track"being there" also having the guy in full view the entire run can make you start deciding your finish line plan too soon, the lists go on on both sides. I hope most of you don't want something like S.P. started in IHRA with things being decided by "best package" well maybe they should go to that best package wins no matter what. Bottom line is first or second shot at the tree I doubt that even if this rule were implemented it would really change the outcome of many races. Just my thoughts. Joe __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117