A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class

[rayfin]

No way ! "You've been in the sun too long!!!" No, that sounds like the drivers name, Sun To Long.

[Toyotakid]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

1. Most of our assets are tied up with Chinese currency support.

2. Most (far too many) of our products are made in a foreign country (such as China, Japan, Mexico).

3. We have a second language with regards to products and services (remember when Fram filters showed OEM part no's instead of now translating English into Spanish?).

All of this makes me sad to be an American, who lives amongst so many who've willingly sold us out to foreigners, thus making this idea of Don's seem to have some merit...

I feel like the American Indian man in the commercial who after seeing all of the polution from people throughout the cities and states of his once sacred land, stand and face a camera with a tear in his eye...

This outsourcing that has occurred over the past 20 years has been brought on not by foreign entities invading but by AMERICANS that are running these large companies so that large bonuses and perks can be provided to these despicable individuals. The thought of making a comfortable living while providing jobs for other Americans and legal immigrants has gone out the door with my grandparent’s generation.

GREED plain and simple ...

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Toyotakid

This outsourcing that has occurred over the past 20 years has been brought on not by foreign entities invading but by AMERICANS that are running these large companies so that large bonuses and perks can be provided to these despicable individuals. The thought of making a comfortable living while providing jobs for other Americans and legal immigrants has gone out the door with my grandparent’s generation.

GREED plain and simple ...

Scott,

You sure hit that nail squarely on the head!!! Nothing makes me feel worse than looking at American products with labels that show foreign manufacturing upon them...another reason I wish I could win one of those mega lotteries, because I surely would be out there trying to undo the wrongs that too many of my fellow "BABY BOOMERS" (by their apparent GREED), have done over these past 20 + years!!! The first company I'd go after would be "CHRYSLER"! I like Mopars so much that I'd want to invest heavily enough into them that I could be a key member in/of their board meetings, and do all that I could (first of all), to end their association with "Mitsubishi"!!! The 3.3 Chrysler V6 was a much better engine than the 3.0 Mitsubishi motor that they placed in so many of their early '90's vehicles---besides you think Mitsubishi was crazy enough to put their premium engines into Chrysler products??? NO WAY! They saved those for their own products to make them look better and Chrysler look worse (they weren't dumb)!!!

Chrysler doesn't need Mitsubishi, any more than GM shouldn't need Isuzu or Toyota, or Ford-- Mazda. However as you said Scott, corporate greed is why they exist in the lives of far too many American badged vehicles (The Chevy Aveo/Daewoo, with it's 1% American Parts Content) being the worst of all Chevy badged vehicles!!!

Scott, I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm soon to be 51 (the 24th), and I just know that when I was in my early 20's, American cars were American Cars (unfortunately with the exception of those Chevy Luv/Isuzu compact trucks, Ford and Dodge had theirs too), and the Chevy badged Corolla called "Nova"...that was one of the greatest insults to a great car name I ever heard of....Thank GOD the Ford Mustang alliance fought with Ford to keep them from calling what became the Probe (Mazda 626), a Mustang!!! At least Chevy latter created the Geo line and took the once great name of Nova, off of those joint ventured Corollas, and renamed it the Prizm.

If any of you corporate big-wigs are reading this (which you probably aren't because you're too busy being greedy), all I have to say to you or your recent decade predecessors is this;

"YOU SUCK"!!!

[Don Kennedy]

ok boys and girls now what is left for Super Stock racing .Good thing their is GT class rules huh see below

"GM wants to cut ties with NHRA teams
The Wall Street Journal today announced that General Motors Corp. filed papers with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court asking to reject 30 contracts, including four “team agreements” with the NHRA.

GM is seeking to cut ties with Cagnazzi Racing, KB Racing LLC, Kurt Racing and Pedregon Racing by July 22.

Well, after GM killed the Pontiac brand, we were waiting for the other shoe to drop. [7/8/2009]"

[hadtobethere]

....Toyota and Honda to become major NHRA team sponsors, just could happen, even a GT Pro Stock (using a body from ?)...

or.....new Super Stock GT classes using Toyota or Honda or ? bodies

[Tod Lane]

Originally Posted by Fred Popov

New Dodge Challenger and the Chevy Camaro are both built in Canada so I guess they are Imports .....At least the Mustang is still built in the USA. Oh yea, and these Toyotas and Nissans that most still consider to be imports, actually most of them are built in the USA by employed American people.

Wouldn't the new Challenger be a Fiat now..?

[treessavoy]

[quote=X-TECH MAN;118055][quote=Don Kennedy

X tech man said " think Im gonna PUKE !"

why would you not be concerned about the future of Super Stock racing > i am confused about this comment also

Its not that we dont have enought car bodies to build.....The problem is where is the new blood going to come from??? Its the drivers/buildrers/engine builders/and so on and thier AGE that is "killing" the stock and S/S classes. That and the fact that NHRA and IHRA does NOTHING to promote the class. Adding foriegn car bodies wont cure anything. That and the fact that its way to expensive for the younger generation to just jump in and play. Most of the young drivers today are off spring of all of us old farts from the car era of the 50's and 60's and early 70's. The young people want less BS (tear downs) so they run the 90 classes and they get to go fast without all of the BS that goes with a class car..[/QUOTE]



So let them run brackets and .90's. I spend a lot of time with the 20 something yo's and they don't give a damn about drag racing, they just want fat tires, loud exhaust, and big stereo's.

I sometimes take my PT Cruiser to test and tune for some fun....there NEVER are any young kids there with their Hondas, etc....never!

If they want to play, let them play by the existing rules or go drifting....

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

Jeff: Believe me I get it for sure big time “ BUT” but I am not sure others see what I see ,hey I could be wrong but most likely not(in my opinion of course LOL at me )

If the American Car Companies are no longer are involved in Racing Then What???

Who will support Super Stock or even Pro Stock racing ??

Heck Pontiac is No longer around so what happens to The Pontiac Pro Stock Cars?

If Chevy is no longer involved in Racing then what ??

If Mopar is no longer involved in Drag Racing then what ???

Does anyone else have a plan to keep Super Stock racing going?

Or does everyone think The American Car Companies will still be involved?

I think they will drop the Performance end of all of the American Car Companies big time oh wait Pontiac is toast, Chevy has no ,zero plan to even be concerned about performance so far only a overweight Camaro and now Chrysler is owned by a foreign car company ???

Now Ford is on top of the performance plan which is good for racing .

So all of us don’t like the idea of just using another body style to use in Super Stock , this is not a good thing in my opinion cause soon all our cars will be not even sold to the public in any way, even the names will be gone so open up the options of at least using a body that is being sold on Monday after we raced it on Sunday as a options for racers to do

You guys are too young!

What the hell do you think we did before car companies became involved?

They can all close down but racers will still race. The bodies are still out there, the engines, and speed equip. builders are still out there who the hell needs new cars. I've been racing the same car since 1977 and wouldn't change if you gave me a new CJ Mustang and $100,000.00.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Gordie Kissner

I'll pass on the foreign cars, but how about the great ole american wagon in GT!! Could somebody tell me why wagons aren't allowed in GT?

Gordie -- I had no idea that wagons aren't allowed in GT -- Where did you learn about that rule ? Or is it even a rule ? Me , I love to see a Caprice Classic or a Custom Cruiser or even an Electra Estate with a big block for power .Those babies are so big 'Dragster' would have to enlarge their size just to show pictures of them .

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Gordie -- I had no idea that wagons aren't allowed in GT -- Where did you learn about that rule ? Or is it even a rule ? Me , I love to see a Caprice Classic or a Custom Cruiser or even an Electra Estate with a big block for power .Those babies are so big 'Dragster' would have to enlarge their size just to show pictures of them .

Page 122 of the 2009 Rule Book
"Reserved for foreign and domestic factory-production two-door coupes,two doot sedans,sports cars,or convertibles with any productionV-8 engine of the same make,"