A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class - Page 4

GTO/GN · 04-30-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24

I couldn't agree with you more bud, but I can't blame the products themselves, as much as I blame our government for rolling out the red carpet for them....by doing things such as lifting the tariffs that once were charged to all imported products (even when there was proven evidence that free trade went one way in Japan, by a Washington envoy to Japan..circa 1991 Associated Press), or letting them build manufacturing plants here in our country so as to free themselves from the tariffs by calling their products American (since they were built here)? Yeah right, built with parts that were imported from their true country of origin---the LAND OF THE RISING YEN!!! Furthermore, I would blame those millions of people who seem to feel that no-longer can their "Fellow American's" design, engineer, and build quality cars and trucks for our everyday usage---imagine telling your sons and daughters that because they are Americans, they can't produce a usable product as good/better than the Asian & European countries can...that's essentially what those of them who patronized (then/now) those companies instead of ours have done!!! I personally challenged a Washington spokesperson back in the early '90's who dared to come out to one of my communities schools to have us parents steer our children to service oriented jobs, because the manufacturing base was going overseas!!! WHAT A COPOUT!!!
I'll BE DAMNED IF I WAS GOING TO TELL MY CHILDREN THAT CRAP!!!

I'll tell you this, if I would've won a decent part of that mega-million lottery from last year, I sure would've tried to revitalize the "Timex" watch/clock company, and/or our former American tv makers "Zenith", "Magnavox", or "RCA"...remember them???

THIS COUNTRY WE LOVE DIDN'T BECOME SUCH BECAUSE OF "MADE IN JAPAN", OR ANYWHERE ELSE, "AMERICA EXISTS BECAUSE OF MADE IN THE USA", AND AMERICAN PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME!!!!

Now you all know another reason I feel the way I do about imports...that's my take, what's yours???

Well said... agree 100%...
And to Don Kennedy, This is just how I feel, and no one has to like it or agree with me its just how I feel.. Right or wrong its how I feel..
Yes I know the new GTO was not built here... But the profits from the sales of a Pontiac would end up with a American Company... Supporting American family's, American Jobs... Bottom line ends up in USA...
21,000 jobs at the factory level being cut, due to the closing of Pontiac. Not to mention all the suppliers that are going to have to lay off workers. Even tire manufactures will be cutting back on workers... no need for that many tires next year no Pontiacs to put them on...

Jeff Teuton · 04-30-2009, 07:24 PM

Don, there is an old Country & Western song "What Part of No Don't You Understand" which I will send you a copy.

bill dedman · 04-30-2009, 07:36 PM

Now can I build that Fiat 850 GT/A car with the SRT8 Hemi I've been daydreaming about ever since I hear that Mopar was gonna merge with Fiat???

GarysZ24 · 04-30-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GTO/GN

Well said... agree 100%...
And to Don Kennedy, This is just how I feel, and no one has to like it or agree with me its just how I feel.. Right or wrong its how I feel..
Yes I know the new GTO was not built here... But the profits from the sales of a Pontiac would end up with a American Company... Supporting American family's, American Jobs... Bottom line ends up in USA...
21,000 jobs at the factory level being cut, due to the closing of Pontiac. Not to mention all the suppliers that are going to have to lay off workers. Even tire manufactures will be cutting back on workers... no need for that many tires next year no Pontiacs to put them on...

Amen Brother!!!

Besides, I work for one of GM's suppliers, so I understand that all too well....

Don Kennedy · 04-30-2009, 07:54 PM

Jeff: Believe me I get it for sure big time “ BUT” but I am not sure others see what I see ,hey I could be wrong but most likely not(in my opinion of course LOL at me )

If the American Car Companies are no longer are involved in Racing Then What???

Who will support Super Stock or even Pro Stock racing ??

Heck Pontiac is No longer around so what happens to The Pontiac Pro Stock Cars?

If Chevy is no longer involved in Racing then what ??

If Mopar is no longer involved in Drag Racing then what ???

Does anyone else have a plan to keep Super Stock racing going?

Or does everyone think The American Car Companies will still be involved?

I think they will drop the Performance end of all of the American Car Companies big time oh wait Pontiac is toast, Chevy has no ,zero plan to even be concerned about performance so far only a overweight Camaro and now Chrysler is owned by a foreign car company ???

Now Ford is on top of the performance plan which is good for racing .

So all of us don’t like the idea of just using another body style to use in Super Stock , this is not a good thing in my opinion cause soon all our cars will be not even sold to the public in any way, even the names will be gone so open up the options of at least using a body that is being sold on Monday after we raced it on Sunday as a options for racers to do

M Brand 505B · 04-30-2009, 09:51 PM

Its time for superstock/ GT to evolve. People who are racing these WRX's, SRT 4's, and EVO's have money and spend it. Change the rules for GT and allow 4 and 6 cylinder turbo engines to run. Sooner or later this will happen so why not allow it now? Another problem is these import drivers probably know very little if any at all about stock or super stock. Talk to these people at local bracket races and try to get them interested and involved. They'd be a great addition to the stock/superstock classes.

Steve Williams · 04-30-2009, 10:25 PM

Don,

You are not all there and your posts in this thread show that. Non USA cars in Stock and Super Stock. Give me a break. Do you know anything about these cars? Do you know anybody that does that can tech them? You are absolutely lost. Just my opinion-but for a long time Pontiac racer to say what you said you have lost your mind. I thought better of you than that. I don't anticipate posting on this thread any further as this thread takes the cake for talking out your rear end.

Steve

A long time fan of you and your efforts. Not anymore....

SS Engine Guy · 04-30-2009, 11:37 PM

F----Fixed
I-----It
A---Again
T----Today

If it could have been done without many hardworking people losing their jobs, I would have soon they would have folded than to have another foreign country buying another chunk of America.

Jeff Lee · 05-01-2009, 12:15 AM

Twin turbo Supra

Nissan 370R

Subaru WR4

There's moe. Built to race, they wouldn't go any faster with a cross-over engine. Probably slow 'em down.

Dick Butler · 05-01-2009, 05:30 AM

Don,
The post shows you are still a Drag Racer at Heart and you would like to see it live on. Problem is the life or death of S and SS racing will be based on the Racer population and their life expectancy. With the issues facing the Manufacturers, the economy and lets not forget the total arrogance of NHRA and its lack of touch the racing as you and I love it is about gone. Unfortunately your idea favors more of NHRAs dilution of competition,not strengthening it. More combos, less monitoring of tech, more out of game combos with bogus capability. More dis satisfaction with rules and action by NHRA.
NEXT idea?

04-30-2009, 07:24 PM	#32
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Don, there is an old Country & Western song "What Part of No Don't You Understand" which I will send you a copy. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

04-30-2009, 07:36 PM	#33
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Now can I build that Fiat 850 GT/A car with the SRT8 Hemi I've been daydreaming about ever since I hear that Mopar was gonna merge with Fiat??? __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 04-30-2009 at 10:06 PM.

04-30-2009, 07:54 PM	#35
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Jeff: Believe me I get it for sure big time “ BUT” but I am not sure others see what I see ,hey I could be wrong but most likely not(in my opinion of course LOL at me ) If the American Car Companies are no longer are involved in Racing Then What??? Who will support Super Stock or even Pro Stock racing ?? Heck Pontiac is No longer around so what happens to The Pontiac Pro Stock Cars? If Chevy is no longer involved in Racing then what ?? If Mopar is no longer involved in Drag Racing then what ??? Does anyone else have a plan to keep Super Stock racing going? Or does everyone think The American Car Companies will still be involved? I think they will drop the Performance end of all of the American Car Companies big time oh wait Pontiac is toast, Chevy has no ,zero plan to even be concerned about performance so far only a overweight Camaro and now Chrysler is owned by a foreign car company ??? Now Ford is on top of the performance plan which is good for racing . So all of us don’t like the idea of just using another body style to use in Super Stock , this is not a good thing in my opinion cause soon all our cars will be not even sold to the public in any way, even the names will be gone so open up the options of at least using a body that is being sold on Monday after we raced it on Sunday as a options for racers to do __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS Last edited by Don Kennedy; 04-30-2009 at 07:57 PM.

04-30-2009, 09:51 PM	#36
M Brand 505B Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 158 Likes: 2 Liked 31 Times in 10 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Its time for superstock/ GT to evolve. People who are racing these WRX's, SRT 4's, and EVO's have money and spend it. Change the rules for GT and allow 4 and 6 cylinder turbo engines to run. Sooner or later this will happen so why not allow it now? Another problem is these import drivers probably know very little if any at all about stock or super stock. Talk to these people at local bracket races and try to get them interested and involved. They'd be a great addition to the stock/superstock classes. __________________ Michael Brand II 505B - F/SA

04-30-2009, 10:25 PM	#37
Steve Williams Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 352 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Don, You are not all there and your posts in this thread show that. Non USA cars in Stock and Super Stock. Give me a break. Do you know anything about these cars? Do you know anybody that does that can tech them? You are absolutely lost. Just my opinion-but for a long time Pontiac racer to say what you said you have lost your mind. I thought better of you than that. I don't anticipate posting on this thread any further as this thread takes the cake for talking out your rear end. Steve A long time fan of you and your efforts. Not anymore....

04-30-2009, 11:37 PM	#38
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class F----Fixed I-----It A---Again T----Today If it could have been done without many hardworking people losing their jobs, I would have soon they would have folded than to have another foreign country buying another chunk of America.

05-01-2009, 12:15 AM	#39
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Twin turbo Supra Nissan 370R Subaru WR4 There's moe. Built to race, they wouldn't go any faster with a cross-over engine. Probably slow 'em down. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX Last edited by Jeff Lee; 05-01-2009 at 12:17 AM.

05-01-2009, 05:30 AM	#40
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class Don, The post shows you are still a Drag Racer at Heart and you would like to see it live on. Problem is the life or death of S and SS racing will be based on the Racer population and their life expectancy. With the issues facing the Manufacturers, the economy and lets not forget the total arrogance of NHRA and its lack of touch the racing as you and I love it is about gone. Unfortunately your idea favors more of NHRAs dilution of competition,not strengthening it. More combos, less monitoring of tech, more out of game combos with bogus capability. More dis satisfaction with rules and action by NHRA. NEXT idea?