"WHAT IF" part 4 - Page 2

RJ · 03-08-2009, 07:29 PM

Not sure if it would be an issue or not, but I am assuming these races will be held at tracks currently sanctioned by NHRA or IHRA?, and if so, are these same tracks bound in any way to not hold races put on by a competing (UCRA, AHRA, whatever this will be called ) sanctioning body?

GUMP · 03-08-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

What about the AHRA ("Alternative" Hot Rod Association)

IMO, if you want credibility, you need to use a serious name not a slap in the face to other organizations. I would suggest that if you want to get at the other sanctioning bodies the best way would be to take their customers.

Trevor Weiss · 03-08-2009, 07:40 PM

They let the Pinks Show race at tracks that are NHRA and IHRA. Pinks is not a part of either orginization.

Alan Roehrich · 03-08-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor Weiss

They let the Pinks Show race at tracks that are NHRA and IHRA. Pinks is not a part of either orginization.

Trevor, Pinks is not actually directly competing with either NHRA or IHRA, the new association would certainly be considered to be in direct competition with both.

treessavoy · 04-02-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Trevor, Pinks is not actually directly competing with either NHRA or IHRA, the new association would certainly be considered to be in direct competition with both.

Good point but it raises another question: Would NHRA/IHRA let us run on the tracks they have contracts with or control. If we are competing against them where would we be allowed race?

Track owners would not want to take the chance of losing contracts with the HRA's by hosting our races....just something to think about!

Trevor Weiss · 03-10-2009, 08:59 AM

Alan, I agree that it would be in competition race car wise, but Pinks is in competition with them with the fans. Just look at how many people go and watch this show, there are as many at Pinks watching as there are at a National event on Sunday. Am I wrong?

After thinking about what I posted and after reading it I have made no sence,I think I have breathed in to many paint fumes today. I guess what I was trying to say is that Pinks is in competition with them and they are letting them put on their show at affiliated tracks and that I did not think it would be a problem with some one else doing the same thing just in another format but I'm probably wrong.

Robert Swartz · 03-08-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

IMO, if you want credibility, you need to use a serious name not a slap in the face to other organizations. I would suggest that if you want to get at the other sanctioning bodies the best way would be to take their customers.

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Trevor, Pinks is not actually directly competing with either NHRA or IHRA, the new association would certainly be considered to be in direct competition with both.

Good points by both of you. I wasn't around for the US Class Nationals. How was that handled? Wasn't it run at an NHRA or IHRA facility? Being a one time event, probably didn't raise too many eyebrows back then.

If you consider it from this angle. Many tracks run nothing but bracket racing. Back in my day, there used to be all kind of different "events", alcohol Funny Cars, Outlaw Pro Stock shows, bike drags. These were run as adjunct events to the regular shows. What makes this any different? Other than it's being planned as a stand alone event. I don't believe anyone thinks this is going to supplant the big organizations. If you race under either #HRA, I imagine you'll still run those events, won't you?

Am I reading this wrong. Isn't this mainly an attempt to bring together the various grass roots S/SS organizations that run combos now. Or more to the point, bringing back a form of racing to the mainstream that isn't as recognised as it should be.

You might not get one of the premier facilities. I'm sure there's a track out there that would be suitable for this endeavor. And wouldn't have to surrender their sanction to run the event(s).

After all this, I still like the AHRA name. What ever this ends up being called. I still think it has tremendous potential. If it never comes about, just hope there's still a combo race to run when I get my car together.

Robert Swartz

GUMP · 03-08-2009, 08:39 PM

Did anyone post "ACRA" (American Class Racers Association)?

GarysZ24 · 04-04-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

One question.....How many FWD cars exist today across the country anyway????

My first guess would be 12-20 (on the NHRA side that is). I only can think of myself and these guys (cars):
1. Brad Pierce
2. Randy Hyman
3. Bill Owen
4. Steve Pohill
5. Dennis Chapman
6. Jim Wahl
7. Nichole Stephenson
8. The Minnesota Neon
9. Russ Abrams
10. Myself--Gary Hampton
11. Stan Kopejtka
12. Bill Howell
13. Skip Loeffler

That's it as I can best recall of last seasons racers...any others out there? Speak up....

Dick Butler · 04-04-2009, 07:26 PM

Divided by 7 divisions is 2 per division or possible ? per area nationals divided by number of classes....= bye runs for class..
Not being negative but if an organization is to be developed to support CLASS racing one of its moves should be to lay out a plan to consolidate classes so Classes could have competition anywhere in the country they were contested.
That would be hard decisions to make or what would have been gained?
Positive suggestion start as is and consolidate per 6 months...

03-08-2009, 07:29 PM	#1
RJ Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 248 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "WHAT IF" part 4 Not sure if it would be an issue or not, but I am assuming these races will be held at tracks currently sanctioned by NHRA or IHRA?, and if so, are these same tracks bound in any way to not hold races put on by a competing (UCRA, AHRA, whatever this will be called ) sanctioning body?

03-08-2009, 07:40 PM	#3
Trevor Weiss Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "WHAT IF" part 4 They let the Pinks Show race at tracks that are NHRA and IHRA. Pinks is not a part of either orginization. __________________ Trevor Weiss 2891 STK

03-10-2009, 08:59 AM	#6
Trevor Weiss Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "WHAT IF" part 4 Alan, I agree that it would be in competition race car wise, but Pinks is in competition with them with the fans. Just look at how many people go and watch this show, there are as many at Pinks watching as there are at a National event on Sunday. Am I wrong? After thinking about what I posted and after reading it I have made no sence,I think I have breathed in to many paint fumes today. I guess what I was trying to say is that Pinks is in competition with them and they are letting them put on their show at affiliated tracks and that I did not think it would be a problem with some one else doing the same thing just in another format but I'm probably wrong. __________________ Trevor Weiss 2891 STK Last edited by Trevor Weiss; 03-10-2009 at 12:48 PM.

03-08-2009, 08:39 PM	#8
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,832 Likes: 2,200 Liked 2,364 Times in 560 Posts	Re: "WHAT IF" part 4 Did anyone post "ACRA" (American Class Racers Association)?

04-04-2009, 07:26 PM	#10
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: "WHAT IF" part 4 Divided by 7 divisions is 2 per division or possible ? per area nationals divided by number of classes....= bye runs for class.. Not being negative but if an organization is to be developed to support CLASS racing one of its moves should be to lay out a plan to consolidate classes so Classes could have competition anywhere in the country they were contested. That would be hard decisions to make or what would have been gained? Positive suggestion start as is and consolidate per 6 months... Last edited by Dick Butler; 04-04-2009 at 07:28 PM.