Some Head and Neck Restraint info

Dave Steltz · 11-02-2010, 10:10 AM

FYI for those of you considering a Head and Neck system....per the rule book, and per the D1 tech guys, if you are in an open body car (Roadster or Dragster) and by rule you have to wear a neck collar (9.99 and faster), and you choose to wear a Head and Neck system, with NO neck collar, you MUST wear a 3.3 head sock, or have a skirted helmet...

I verified this just this am....

SG1809 · 11-03-2010, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Steltz

FYI for those of you considering a Head and Neck system....per the rule book, and per the D1 tech guys, if you are in an open body car (Roadster or Dragster) and by rule you have to wear a neck collar (9.99 and faster), and you choose to wear a Head and Neck system, with NO neck collar, you MUST wear a 3.3 head sock, or have a skirted helmet...

I verified this just this am....

Dave,
When I did my research before buying the Hans Device, they said it should be used without a neck collar. Some have said you should wear the neck collar in addition but as far as I know it was specific about not wearing a neck collar with the Hans. That being said I guess you would have to wear a head sock. Why not in a closed body car?
Regards,
Pat I
SG1809

darkside · 11-04-2010, 11:33 AM

To follow up on the head sock rule. The neck brace acts as a fire barrier for your head in the event of a fire situation. When we use the HANS, which I have and love, you have to have some sort of fire protection for your head and face, so either the neck brace, head sock or helmet skirt will do.

I use a head sock and after you get use to it, it is not bad at all. After seeing the stocker wreck pics on here I'm not so sure we all don't need a hans device or some type of head and neck device.

The older I get the more I look at saftey issues and work on things that might save me even if they are not a rule. Like after Bob Wolkowitz wreck, my new car will have carbon fiber interior body panels in the event of the main body coming off to keep my limbs inside the car.

Dave Steltz · 11-04-2010, 02:31 PM

Pat, not sure if you have to wear a sock or skirt in a door car, but the rule basically says that if you were required to wear a neck collar, and you dont (which with a HANS you dont) then you have to wear one or the other...I was kinda focused on the open car rule...talk to Ryck Campbell he can set you straight...

Lynn, when I was building my car (roadster) I was kinda thinking the same, and I have a tin interior I added , in addition to the body, in case the body got ripped off for some reason...Carbon fiber is probably a better way but at least I have something...

frank v · 11-04-2010, 03:15 PM

dave, stop worrying about a neck restraint and put a big chrome bumper around your whole car. lol

Dave Steltz · 11-04-2010, 05:53 PM

Frankie, I installed big flappers like a pinball machine !!!!!!

SG1809 · 11-05-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Steltz

Pat, not sure if you have to wear a sock or skirt in a door car, but the rule basically says that if you were required to wear a neck collar, and you dont (which with a HANS you dont) then you have to wear one or the other...I was kinda focused on the open car rule...talk to Ryck Campbell he can set you straight...

Lynn, when I was building my car (roadster) I was kinda thinking the same, and I have a tin interior I added , in addition to the body, in case the body got ripped off for some reason...Carbon fiber is probably a better way but at least I have something...

Thanks Dave I'll look into it.
Pat I

darkside · 11-06-2010, 10:46 AM

Sorry I didn't make myself clearer. If you have a head and neck restraint, you must have some sort of fire protection in the place of the neck collar, no matter what car.

While some people don't do it, the rule in the rule book is there and you must have some type of protection, head sock, skirt, or neck brace to be in compliance.

Hope this helps.

11-02-2010, 10:10 AM	#1
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Some Head and Neck Restraint info FYI for those of you considering a Head and Neck system....per the rule book, and per the D1 tech guys, if you are in an open body car (Roadster or Dragster) and by rule you have to wear a neck collar (9.99 and faster), and you choose to wear a Head and Neck system, with NO neck collar, you MUST wear a 3.3 head sock, or have a skirted helmet... I verified this just this am.... __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

11-04-2010, 11:33 AM	#3
darkside Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 56 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some Head and Neck Restraint info To follow up on the head sock rule. The neck brace acts as a fire barrier for your head in the event of a fire situation. When we use the HANS, which I have and love, you have to have some sort of fire protection for your head and face, so either the neck brace, head sock or helmet skirt will do. I use a head sock and after you get use to it, it is not bad at all. After seeing the stocker wreck pics on here I'm not so sure we all don't need a hans device or some type of head and neck device. The older I get the more I look at saftey issues and work on things that might save me even if they are not a rule. Like after Bob Wolkowitz wreck, my new car will have carbon fiber interior body panels in the event of the main body coming off to keep my limbs inside the car. __________________ Lynn Ellison

11-04-2010, 02:31 PM	#4
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some Head and Neck Restraint info Pat, not sure if you have to wear a sock or skirt in a door car, but the rule basically says that if you were required to wear a neck collar, and you dont (which with a HANS you dont) then you have to wear one or the other...I was kinda focused on the open car rule...talk to Ryck Campbell he can set you straight... Lynn, when I was building my car (roadster) I was kinda thinking the same, and I have a tin interior I added , in addition to the body, in case the body got ripped off for some reason...Carbon fiber is probably a better way but at least I have something... __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

11-04-2010, 03:15 PM	#5
frank v Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny Posts: 286 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some Head and Neck Restraint info dave, stop worrying about a neck restraint and put a big chrome bumper around your whole car. lol __________________ s/g 1620

11-04-2010, 05:53 PM	#6
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some Head and Neck Restraint info Frankie, I installed big flappers like a pinball machine !!!!!! __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

11-06-2010, 10:46 AM	#8
darkside Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 56 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some Head and Neck Restraint info Sorry I didn't make myself clearer. If you have a head and neck restraint, you must have some sort of fire protection in the place of the neck collar, no matter what car. While some people don't do it, the rule in the rule book is there and you must have some type of protection, head sock, skirt, or neck brace to be in compliance. Hope this helps. __________________ Lynn Ellison

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