Gas Saver - Is this true?

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by savoyracer

...... good article, still can't help but think.....about a turboed car, say in comp eliminator, or maybe super stock, [don't know the rules] and decide to set a record or maybe have a tight race next round, crank up the boost, and spray water, do not know how it would work, but as I read it, in that scenario you can get a short term HP increase.

In a piston engine, it prevents pinging by cooling the combustion chamber and protecting the engine; there are not power gains. In a turbine engine, it cools down the hot section of the combustor so the pilot does not exceed the EGT and torque limits of the turbine engine.

[Chris Hill]

The water injection acts like an intercooler, it cools the air fuel charge. More power can be made by increasing boost (density of air) and increasing the amount of fuel.

Also, if you inject the water BEFORE the supercharger, the supercharger will increase efficiency as you will have less leakage between the high pressure and low pressure side of the supercharger.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

The Tornado worked in some cars. It was a propellor looking metal insert for the air inlet tube. I believe we picked up some 1-2 miles per on the highway...In an Impala. Did not work in Envoy 6 cylinder...

Well ya' just lost the last bit of credibility you might have had with me on that one Dick!

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by savoyracer

.........Actually in World War Two, some american fighter aircraft were equipped with water injection, to be used as an emergency short burst of power. during dogfights. most notably in the Pacific theatre. Wonder why no one ever tried that technology on a drag racing engine? Would not have to buy nitrous!!

That was a water/alchohol mix. I used to work on old Air Force cargo planes that used the same system (Called ADI, for Anti Detonation Injection) during take-offs.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

That was a water/alchohol mix. I used to work on old Air Force cargo planes that used the same system (Called ADI, for Anti Detonation Injection) during take-offs.

...this means you are older than dirt...just like Woodrow and Jeff Teuton....

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

...this means you are older than dirt...just like Woodrow and Jeff Teuton....

True dat.

[Ed Wright]

Here is one a guy here in Tulsa is promoting. Supposedly a 50% to 75% increase in fuel economy. Guys here are paying $500.00 each to be trained and "certified" to install them. Supposedly a money back deal if you don't see a 50% increase.

http://www.powersaveofamerica.com/

I probably won't jump up and buy one.

[Dick Butler]

Jeff Lee, What I had credibility? ha ha.... Have you tried the Tornado deal..? We honestly showed 1-2 on a older Impala 6 on the road.....2001 I think. now the other burn water or the 100 mile Carb stuff. NO WAY would I even try that stuff.

[gymracer01]

I know this is going to date me, the Olds F-85 with a turbo (1963?) came with an injection system and had a bracket for the bottle of what I think was alochol and water mixture to add to the system like the bottles that they had for windshield washers. I know some people hurt their engines because they didn't keep the system filled. Can you imagine an owner doing that now?
Jim N.

[Rob Petrie E395]

Supposedly a money back deal if you don't see a 50% increase.

http://www.powersaveofamerica.com/

I probably won't jump up and buy one.[/QUOTE]

Damn ED I was just getting ready to send you the PCM out of my 98 dually to work your magic on but I think I will try this thing first. I will be the first one on my block to have one I will be sooo cool pulling that big gooseneck with a dually that gets 20 mpg on gasoline. LOL. On second thought maybe I better see if I can find some time to get you that PCM