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Old 02-07-2020, 03:43 PM   #1
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I'm an outsider, with no dog in the hunt.

I know this post will draw darts, arrows, grenades, & maybe even bombs.

BUT, after reading about how many of you guys gripe & complain when another car in your class gets any help from NHRA, it appears to me that the easiest solution, & what would be MOST fair for all racers, in any particular class, is to do away with heads-up runs, during eliminations.

For those with the quickest cars in a class, there could still be class run-offs at some races, for the classes which had enuff guys who wanted to run for a class win.

It has to be so disappointing, for a guy who has already spent more than he should have, just to get his car safely under his index, only to spend all the money to get to & enter a race, then get put out in a early round, by a same class car, that is quicker than him. It's great for the quicker car. He basically gets a bye & a free time trial. Don't even have to try for a real good light.

I know some will say this makes it more like bracket racing, and they've already done that. But heads-up racing favors the guys who have more money to spend. And these guys will always gripe when some NHRA action reduces their chance of an easy heads-up win.

So, as mentioned, if you guys REALLY want more Stock entries, doing away with heads-up runs during elims, MIGHT be one way to get some new entries. Brent Flynn always come to my mind. He was running bracket, but built a low budget stocker engine & ran it some. But at the larger div races he wouldn't have much of a chance in a heads-up run, since there are usually some quick cars in C/SA thru F/SA. But, IF there were no heads-up races during elims, Brent would have a good shot at a win, even if he had a round against a same class car.

I suppose this might be a deal where the "haves" are on one side & the "have nots" are on the other.

Again, I have no dog in the hunt. But, I'm interested in this discussion, among you guys who do.
I say f*** you to getting rid of heads up runs. Ok,so Brent and anyone else for that matter has worked hard on his stuff and it hasn't really gone any faster, so we should change the rules? I say no,maybe he needs to step up his game. My car was a slug when I started out and I kept plugging away at it, that's what Stock and Super Stock are all about. Like Billy said stop pounding away on the key board and build a car get out there and have some fun! Besides the faster car doesn't always win a heads up race.
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Old 02-07-2020, 04:21 PM   #2
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JR Haddad, how about keeping your political comments to your self such as the end of post #21 don't care which side your on, this is not the site to start that crap.
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Old 02-07-2020, 04:47 PM   #3
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I second that nomination Adam Strang ......
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Can I third that motion? I actually lost two heads-up runs in 2019 but I can tell you first hand, it adds excitement and is a great motivational factor as well.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:58 PM   #5
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Can I third that motion? I actually lost two heads-up runs in 2019 but I can tell you first hand, it adds excitement and is a great motivational factor as well.
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Old 02-08-2020, 12:18 AM   #6
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There is nothing like winning a heads up run!!!
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Old 02-08-2020, 01:12 AM   #7
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well how bad do you want to WIN. what is worth time, money & all the hard work late nights busting your butt and knuckles.weather it be a heads up or a round win the excitement & personal accomplishment makes worth it! I have been on both sides of the heads up working hard to win even it does not look promising, do your best & PRAY for favor ! NEVER GIVE UP !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-08-2020, 01:15 AM   #8
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When I first started I was one of guys that people would be glued to my bumper for class. I worked hard on everything from A - V cars to make them the best. Oddly enough some of my most memorable heads include ones I lost pushing my foot through the floor looking eye to eye at 1250 ft. If you are not motivated by a race like this one I lost 10 years ago, I don’t know what would. Take away heads up and a lot of us are gone. Have fun in the pro bracket.
Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
6300 Glenn Person 7784 Paul Wong
E2 ****WINNER**** 0.009 10.689 121.33 0.030 10.689 122.91
E/SA Dial: 11.70 (+/-): -1.011 E/SA Dial: 11.70 (+/-): -1.011
Prior rounds:
E1 (G Stein ) 0.015 11.032 0.042 (D Belli ) 0.063 11.069 0.139
Qualified: #12 10.764 -0.936 #27 10.870 -0.830

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Old 02-08-2020, 07:53 AM   #9
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The chances of heads up is why I race. When I loose one I have a road map of where I need to be better, if I win they have the map.
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