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Ya know, I just answered a "HP Welfare" question on another thread and it's got me thinkin'. When NHRA gave the 302 FFFords back all of that HP, the result was a bunch of cars getting built and many of them were built by Racers who hadn't run in Stock Eliminator before. I personally believe that, accident, mistake or whatever, it ended up being a good thing.
Maybe it's time for them to start looking for some more easily doable, somewhat easy to find combos that could/would benefit some "less than independently wealthy" Racers who might want to give Stock Eliminator a try?

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Hi Billy,,,question,did a 69 Camaro ever come with a 6 cylinder engine?? A friend said yes,I don't know.

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I agree 100 percent a 318 Mopar or 305 chevrolet would be perfect coming from one of those 302 Ford builders whose never raced Stock before

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I think the intention of getting HP off the 302 Fords was started with ‘less than independently wealthy’ racers in mind. One thing is sure, the sport needs new racers

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Well I know who will be commenting on this subject shortly, wait for it...

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Hi Tim! Yup, they came with 230" and 250" sixes. My old Nova used a 230. Fun car.

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Need some more lower class stockers. M through W. Come on guys, jump in, the water’s fine !

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You might feel different if over 100 combinations that fit YOUR class were given 30+hp off relegating you to a lifetime of losing class races to cars that were given the gift ... yea getting 600 pounds off generates people taking advantage of the situation >>> the class guide is FULL of good combos you of all people know that why should NHRA screw those of us who picked a combo by making it uncompetitive??? And to rub salt into it they gave 100+ combos this gift in one action BUT they get hit with hp back as individual combos 😡

Give an A/SA car 30hp off and there would be a riot

Captain

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I'm gathering up parts for a V/SA Volare. Does that count?

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I'm an outsider, with no dog in the hunt.

I know this post will draw darts, arrows, grenades, & maybe even bombs.

BUT, after reading about how many of you guys gripe & complain when another car in your class gets any help from NHRA, it appears to me that the easiest solution, & what would be MOST fair for all racers, in any particular class, is to do away with heads-up runs, during eliminations.

For those with the quickest cars in a class, there could still be class run-offs at some races, for the classes which had enuff guys who wanted to run for a class win.

It has to be so disappointing, for a guy who has already spent more than he should have, just to get his car safely under his index, only to spend all the money to get to & enter a race, then get put out in a early round, by a same class car, that is quicker than him. It's great for the quicker car. He basically gets a bye & a free time trial. Don't even have to try for a real good light.

I know some will say this makes it more like bracket racing, and they've already done that. But heads-up racing favors the guys who have more money to spend. And these guys will always gripe when some NHRA action reduces their chance of an easy heads-up win.

So, as mentioned, if you guys REALLY want more Stock entries, doing away with heads-up runs during elims, MIGHT be one way to get some new entries. Brent Flynn always come to my mind. He was running bracket, but built a low budget stocker engine & ran it some. But at the larger div races he wouldn't have much of a chance in a heads-up run, since there are usually some quick cars in C/SA thru F/SA. But, IF there were no heads-up races during elims, Brent would have a good shot at a win, even if he had a round against a same class car.

I suppose this might be a deal where the "haves" are on one side & the "have nots" are on the other.

Again, I have no dog in the hunt. But, I'm interested in this discussion, among you guys who do. :)