It is time to change the Point System

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Stang_Bang

01 Jackie Alley 651 5/7
02 Peter Biondo 634 10/8
03 David Rampy 625 14/8

If the whole going to every race theory was true then what happened in SS? World Championships are not meant to be an easy task to accomplish. I think our system is perfect now because even if you go to every single race you can only claim 3 nationals and 5 divisionals. In my opinion points is not the problem it's the payout's. Pay 5k to the winner at a national event and tell me if the racing economy doesnt start to get better in NHRA.

Yes, but YOU get to pick the best of those 3 nationals and 5 divisional races.
Now if it was "claim the race before you tech", then it would be perfectly acceptable. Yep, you have a bad day and go out 1st round then that's not a big payday on points. But with the current system, if I travel the continent, I can have many bad days and still come out ahead because I pick the gory days and throw out the bad days. If your a great racer, a truly great racer, you should have no problem in claiming a race before, not after.
Kinda like speed dating instead of a single blind date...

[Don Kennedy]

if it were me I would have a points system for the national championship This way.

A racer can get points at your home division only ,your best 5 divisional races count as points out of 7 races . If you set a national record , you get points , if You qualifiy number one you get points . The the top two or three of each division show up for The National championship ,either at a race specially for them , or have a round robin type format or the normal format for eliminations . .

The reason in This economic enviroinment is very obvious Money and time is not there for over 90% of the racers to chase the points .

Right now the present system is set up for the 10% to 15 % of the racers who either have a lot of money to race or have a lot of time to race . Just look at who at the winners the last ten years , heck i bet even they would like this system especially now .

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Billy

And some ugly old 301 Grand Prixs too

My apologies for neglecting the obvious sales spike that would occur for Grand Prix.

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

A racer can get points at your home division only

I've long considered the "accident of proximity" a poor yardstick for geographic divisions. Just because someone lives in Div. 2 doesn't mean that they're close to more than one LODRS located in that Division, and then you're also locking people into a fairly strict schedule. If you want to get into it, really the idea of geographic regions is somewhat antiquated. The primary reason for having Divisions is just for folks that don't want to travel as much, but if you're going to "fix" a points system to make travel less of a burden, then can the idea of "Divisions" entirely, add the awards and funds to the national chase, and make all LODRS wildcards. Go to the (however many) races that are close for YOU, and/or fit YOUR schedule.

No, I'm not advocating the sweeping change. Just enjoying the mental gymnastics.

[The Hawk]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

if it were me I would have a points system for the national championship This way.

A racer can get points at your home division only ,your best 5 divisional races count as points out of 7 races . If you set a national record , you get points , if You qualifiy number one you get points . The the top two or three of each division show up for The National championship ,either at a race specially for them , or have a round robin type format or the normal format for eliminations . .

The reason in This economic enviroinment is very obvious Money and time is not there for over 90% of the racers to chase the points .

Right now the present system is set up for the 10% to 15 % of the racers who either have a lot of money to race or have a lot of time to race . Just look at who at the winners the last ten years , heck i bet even they would like this system especially now .

That idea to me isn`t worth a dime Don. Division 5 takes that one in the shorts.

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by The Hawk

That idea to me isn`t worth a dime Don. Division 5 takes that one in the shorts.

Your right not sure what to do unless you have three points meet at denver and then three in Minn . or just move here to Az

[Stang_Bang]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Yes, but YOU get to pick the best of those 3 nationals and 5 divisional races.
Now if it was "claim the race before you tech", then it would be perfectly acceptable. Yep, you have a bad day and go out 1st round then that's not a big payday on points. But with the current system, if I travel the continent, I can have many bad days and still come out ahead because I pick the gory days and throw out the bad days. If your a great racer, a truly great racer, you should have no problem in claiming a race before, not after.
Kinda like speed dating instead of a single blind date...

What is wrong with the current system?? You make it seem like you can go to 10 races, lose 1st round at every one and still be world champ. I know you are not a rookie to this sport Jeff so you have seen points totals and know how hard it is to win a champoinship. You can win a champoinship with out leaving your division, all you have to do is be a bad ***! Not complain about HP ratings, DP, CJ's, points systems, light weight windows. Cut a light and drive the finish line like a mofo. I'm sure Peter Biondo is real angry that a 1971 chevy got 3 HP taken off of it. LoL!!!

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Stang_Bang

What is wrong with the current system?? You make it seem like you can go to 10 races, lose 1st round at every one and still be world champ. I know you are not a rookie to this sport Jeff so you have seen points totals and know how hard it is to win a champoinship. You can win a champoinship with out leaving your division, all you have to do is be a bad ***! Not complain about HP ratings, DP, CJ's, points systems, light weight windows. Cut a light and drive the finish line like a mofo. I'm sure Peter Biondo is real angry that a 1971 chevy got 3 HP taken off of it. LoL!!!

It is all about Money and time, what you are saying just bout everyone already knows

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Stang_Bang

What is wrong with the current system?? You make it seem like you can go to 10 races, lose 1st round at every one and still be world champ. I know you are not a rookie to this sport Jeff so you have seen points totals and know how hard it is to win a champoinship. You can win a champoinship with out leaving your division, all you have to do is be a bad ***! Not complain about HP ratings, DP, CJ's, points systems, light weight windows. Cut a light and drive the finish line like a mofo. I'm sure Peter Biondo is real angry that a 1971 chevy got 3 HP taken off of it. LoL!!!

Re-read my comments again because your not following what I wrote.

[Stang_Bang]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Re-read my comments again because your not following what I wrote.

I understand what you are saying, you select which races you are claming points at before the race, not improving points totals like the current system. I just don't see anything wrong with the current system. I am just saying just race, quit all the complaining.

[casper]

Outside of one race at her home track, and one trip to Denver , Jackie won the championship in one time zone . With only one out of division race , which didn't end up counting anyway. Thats a pretty good endorsement for the current system being fair.