New class structures

[Ed Fernandez]

Holy Moly,10 posts and everybodies in sync.Maybe there is hope for us after all.Keep it up.

[Jimi B]

Actually some pretty good Ideas.

Average fans (more importantly prospective fans) need to relate to the cars more.

Cost needs to come down

Less down time

I like it.

[bill dedman]

Once the "new" rules are in place, put a 2-year moratorium on any performance-affecting rules changes. I get tired of seeing NHRA shooting down effective new combos as soon as they display their effectiveness. Case in point; Brad Perssonnett struggled for YEARS to engineer an effective turbocharged powertrain for his Pro Mod, and never won a race. As SOON as he won ONE RACE (the Indy U.S. Nationals) there was a lot of talk about reducing the size of his turbos... ONE RACE.

I think he may have won another one since then, but I read where NHRA actually did reduce the size of those turbos like from 90's to 88's... after he won two races.

I think that's ridiculous; where are these people when a 2008 supercharged Mustang AA/SA goes 145 mph in AA/SA???

There are some more turbo Pro Mods in testing, right now for this new season, but if NHRA defeats them with new, restrictive rules before they ever hit the track, I think it will put a damper on new development.

There needs to be a period of time when people can count on the rules staying the same for awhile, to give them a chance to work on their combinations. Two years would make sense, to me.

The AHFS, such as it is, would be exempt from this...

[art leong]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Once the "new" rules are in place, put a 2-year moratorium on any performance-affecting rules changes. I get tired of seeing NHRA shooting down effective new combos as soon as they display their effectiveness. Case in point; Brad Perssonnett struggled for YEARS to engineer an effective turbocharged powertrain for his Pro Mod, and never won a race. As SOON as he won ONE RACE (the Indy U.S. Nationals) there was a lot of talk about reducing the size of his turbos... ONE RACE.

I think he may have won another one since then, but I read where NHRA actually did reduce the size of those turbos like from 90's to 88's... after he won two races.

I think that's ridiculous; where are these people when a 2008 supercharged Mustang AA/SA goes 145 mph in AA/SA???

There are some more turbo Pro Mods in testing, right now for this new season, but if NHRA defeats them with new, restrictive rules before they ever hit the track, I think it will put a damper on new development.

There needs to be a period of time when people can count on the rules staying the same for awhile, to give them a chance to work on their combinations. Two years would make sense, to me.

The AHFS, such as it is, would be exempt from this...

On this we agree. But even a full year before a change would be a move forward.
I was tossed for an infraction (to little deck height). a month after they tossed me they changed the rule. I never got even a hint of an apoligee. After I spent $300 correcting the supposed infraction.

[BuzzardBros]

Ed... Let me get this straight. You want to eliminate TAD/TAFC and combine them with TF & FC. You want them to toss their $80-100 grand operation into the toilet and start from scratch. Their motors are completely different. Not to mention their pit crews. There's only so many T/F crews out there. BTW, I would just love dragging my stuff around to these races because the big sponsors would stay with the cars/people they already have leaving everybody else with absolutely no chance of winning. Pro Stock would encompass the same thing.
You want everyone with the exception of sportsman racers and the richest people in drag racing to en cure no out of pocket money just the low end of the professional ranks to foot the tab. Oh, I get it, you were kidding right.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by BuzzardBros

Ed... Let me get this straight. You want to eliminate TAD/TAFC

Hey....Thats a GREAT idea. Why didn't I think of that ! lol

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by BuzzardBros

Ed... Let me get this straight. You want to eliminate TAD/TAFC and combine them with TF & FC. You want them to toss their $80-100 grand operation into the toilet and start from scratch. Their motors are completely different. Not to mention their pit crews. There's only so many T/F crews out there. BTW, I would just love dragging my stuff around to these races because the big sponsors would stay with the cars/people they already have leaving everybody else with absolutely no chance of winning. Pro Stock would encompass the same thing.
You want everyone with the exception of sportsman racers and the richest people in drag racing to en cure no out of pocket money just the low end of the professional ranks to foot the tab. Oh, I get it, you were kidding right.

No,I was serious as a heart attack.A lot of the dragsters are injected fuel combos already.
In TA/FC after Frank,everybody else is racing for R/U at a race and #2 in the country.
You'll probably lose some teams.How many competitive teams are in T/F now?How many in F/C?Backing down the fuel cars will open up the amount of cars to fill 28 car fields and maybe make the racing closer and what NHRA wants,more entertaining.After all we're in the entertainment business now.
The budgets would get smaller with the backing down of power and the use of only two engines per race.
Uh,alcohol cars aren't pros,they're supposed to be the top of the sportsman ranks.
I assume that you're either an owner/driver/crew member on an alcohol team.Sorry if you took offense to what I proposed,because it will never happen anyway.
BTW speaking of incurrung expenses.The rest of us lowly sportsman pay into your purse
money.I think we deserve a tip of the hat for that.Your welcomed.

[cicero819]

Both Alky class were design as a minor league system to replenish the major echelons of our sport but now due to the high cost of competing or moving up mostly caused by multiple team ownership with crazy budget, it's no longer possible for them to have a chance to move up as the gap between AA/FC and A/FC has reach unsurmountable proportions. This way someone like Frank Manzo could move up(Parody: just imagine if LeBron James was still playing High School Ball instead of moving up to the pro's, of course he would dominate). Let's nominate Ed as Chairman at NHRA, he wouldn't have to show up but only once a month and could probably cure most of NHRA malignant cancer. You got my vote, maybe have Terry help with the CJ & Challenger Classification. CR

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Both Alky class were design as a minor league system to replenish the major echelons of our sport but now due to the high cost of competing or moving up mostly caused by multiple team ownership with crazy budget, it's no longer possible for them to have a chance to move up as the gap between AA/FC and A/FC has reach unsurmountable proportions. This way someone like Frank Manzo could move up(Parody: just imagine if LeBron James was still playing High School Ball instead of moving up to the pro's, of course he would dominate). Let's nominate Ed as Chairman at NHRA, he wouldn't have to show up but only once a month and could probably cure most of NHRA malignant cancer. You got my vote, maybe have Terry help with the CJ & Challenger Classification. CR

LOL....you dont want me to go there....they would ALL be in S/S with the correct HP factor.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Both Alky class were design as a minor league system to replenish the major echelons of our sport but now due to the high cost of competing or moving up mostly caused by multiple team ownership with crazy budget, it's no longer possible for them to have a chance to move up as the gap between AA/FC and A/FC has reach unsurmountable proportions. This way someone like Frank Manzo could move up(Parody: just imagine if LeBron James was still playing High School Ball instead of moving up to the pro's, of course he would dominate). Let's nominate Ed as Chairman at NHRA, he wouldn't have to show up but only once a month and could probably cure most of NHRA malignant cancer. You got my vote, maybe have Terry help with the CJ & Challenger Classification. CR

Yes I would.And my first action would be to retire Danny and make a certain fellow from the mountains of East central Pa. national tech director.And Graham's new job would be getting coffee every morning for the new director.