Modified return?

[Dick Butler]

Watching and reading the posts on the "Bogus HP ratings" . Everyone is well aware of the fact NHRA cannot, will not, or cares not to make the field level based on HP ratings.
I realize most are "born and bred" Stock or SS racers where ratings WERE the answer.
Why not move more and more to the Modified classes currently present? No advantage to anyone who builds one over another.
Why not support the lb/cubic inch class of your choice and help push the level field by leaving it to the "Bogus Hp cars" and still racing on a more equal basis?

[SS/GSI]

Weight to cubic inch is for Comp, bad enough we have to deal with the cars already within the SS ranks, jut my 2cents. NHRA doesn't mind experimenting with new classes (9.0,10.0,11.0, pro ET, snowmobiles,etc...) why don't they try a nostalgia SS and Modified/Modern SS class splitting real SSerz + traditional RWD conversion GT cars from the modified, front wheel conversion, new cars and/or EFI 1990-20xx cars?

[Steve Williams]

Originally Posted by SS/GSI

Weight to cubic inch is for Comp, bad enough we have to deal with the cars already within the SS ranks, jut my 2cents. NHRA doesn't mind experimenting with new classes (9.0,10.0,11.0, pro ET, snowmobiles,etc...) why don't they try a nostalgia SS and Modified/Modern SS class splitting real SSerz + traditional RWD conversion GT cars from the modified, front wheel conversion, new cars and/or EFI 1990-20xx cars?

What is wrong with weight to cubic inch Super Stockers? I think that the limited teardown inspection appeals to many racers in these classes. What do they check these days? Weight, fuel, trans brake wiring and carb size? The thing I have learned over the last 35 years is that complaining rarely ever gets something changed. It happens less than bigfoot sightings. The people that care about bogus HP ratings are not employed by the NHRA. It is you and they don't really care for you, the racer. They want your money, not your opinion (even if it is a popular opinion that makes sense). Listening stops once the money exchanges hands. Expect this to continue until you quit racing. There have been some dandy people that have worked for NHRA and there are still some of the good guys around. Enjoy the good guys that actually have some knowledge right now, because they seem to be in short supply nowadays and more leave every year it seems.

[Michael Colaluca]

Weight per cubic inch with a spec cylinder head... Keep it simple and have the cost controlled. Talk about a dream!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Michael Colaluca

a spec cylinder head...

You mean like in Stock? Never work. The only way something like this can be kept under control would be to restrict the size of the throttle body and restrict the outlet size of the collector.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

You mean like in Stock? Never work. The only way something like this can be kept under control would be to restrict the size of the throttle body and restrict the outlet size of the collector.

Funny, I was discussing that with some circle track racers at Indy... some series have restricted the exhaust, but didn't sound like anyone's limited both the intake *and* the exhaust together.

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Watching and reading the posts on the "Bogus HP ratings" . Everyone is well aware of the fact NHRA cannot, will not, or cares not to make the field level based on HP ratings.
I realize most are "born and bred" Stock or SS racers where ratings WERE the answer.
Why not move more and more to the Modified classes currently present? No advantage to anyone who builds one over another.
Why not support the lb/cubic inch class of your choice and help push the level field by leaving it to the "Bogus Hp cars" and still racing on a more equal basis?

Dick, you are 100% correct. When I made that move and sold my SS/A B Corvette it was the best thing I ever did and never looked back. The first time out with the new car at a National Event in Houston netted a #6 qualifying spot (with a single carb and a 4 speed) at 8.86 154 which at the time, was the quickest and fastest SS car in history. (SS/AM) I've tried to tell the racers on this forum that's the best thing they could do but had few takers. You and I know that people tend to find a "comfort zone" and stay there. They will whine and cry like 10 year old school girls about their suffering and the problems they face but won't do anything about it.

Fact: Most of the problems and complaints faced by the traditional S and SS racers are coming from people and organizations they cannot control and it's not gonna stop.

Fact: You have to take a reactive position. If those problems really bother you that much... MOVE to a place where those problems don't exist... in this case, SS Modified or Comp.

Fact: The new cars are here to stay and the older ones are on a sinking ship. It's just a matter of time. At bare minimum, it's foolish to continue pumping money into an older car. If you have to, sell all of your older stuff - sit out a year or two and build a new car. If you are unable to face this reality and make the changes necessary so you can become a more content, fulfilled racer in this traveling circus, you have no one to blame but yourself.... cause it ain't gonna change.

[Randall Klein]

".......if you have to, SELL your older stuff...."

Not quite the market for "stuff" outdated by mis-classed vehicles; pretty cavalier attitude for someone who sold out in a different market

[Rusty Davenport]

Car types, hood scoops, classes and heads will not end class racing.........people types will.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by randall klein

".......if you have to, sell your older stuff...."

not quite the market for "stuff" outdated by mis-classed vehicles; pretty cavalier attitude for someone who sold out in a different market

x2!