Bring back super/mod...

John Leichtamer Jr · 08-14-2012, 08:36 PM

The old s/m class was a good entry class to mod/elim.
Bring back the class with some rules that can be some what
affordable.

10.5 rear tire not 10.5w
cast iron head
any cast intake no sheet metal.
4-speed trans (like the old days)
single 4 bbl carb 850 or less.
porting allowed but no welding or epoxy
A B C classes like before.

Just some ideas...

Hammer

Bob Lasko · 08-14-2012, 08:47 PM

Them were the days, with the novas,camaros,mavricks and so on. had a nove back in the mod days.
bob lasko

Bench Racer · 08-14-2012, 09:08 PM

I agree fully! I miss modified production in any form.

Dick Butler · 08-14-2012, 09:28 PM

I agree with the idea. Make it cheap by making it very limited. Cubic inch and wts. One carb size, No sheet metal manifolds, No Box, Stick or Auto doesnt matter . Stock Crank sizes. Flat top Pistons. Trophy Only prize except contingency. List the bodies legal, Duster, Nova, Camaro. Cage, 4 link, 9 inch rear or 12 bolt or Dana.

james schaechter · 08-14-2012, 09:39 PM

Sounds fun. The autos don't need the weight subsidy though.
We ran a SS/BS 69 Camaro in the 90's with a stick. Everything in that car was used except the gas and oil. It was still more expensive than a stocker.
I love the idea, but it won't be cheap.

Mike Carr · 08-14-2012, 09:46 PM

And no FWD-conversion ''jellybean'' cars.

Wade Mahaffey · 08-14-2012, 10:01 PM

I agree totally. Not that I'm smack dab in the middle of a 10.5 60 Corvette project, but I love the little motors and manual transmissions. I love Super/Stock and Stock, but if you watch the crowd reaction of, say a 10 Cobalt and then a crowd reaction to a moidified Chevy II or Corvette yankin gears....it's just more exciting. And that's what folks watch racing for....excitment! IMO. I would pay double to watch Modified and/or some type of drag racing where the driver actually did something between the starting line and 1250 feet. I did the S/G stuff, delay box, trans brake, throttle stop, let go of the button, then ride along, manage the finish line and that's it. I belive the enhancements mentioned do indeed provide more consistency. I will be using these in my SS/LA entry. But would love to see the driver be responsible for more of the run. No T-Brake, no air shift. No electronics, no Pneumatics. Just my opinion folks

Wade Mahaffey

Bunkster · 08-14-2012, 10:09 PM

Great piece here:

http://www.competitionplus.com/2006_01/supermodified.html

Ed Wright · 08-14-2012, 10:30 PM

Mike!!

Tom keedle · 08-14-2012, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

I agree with the idea. Make it cheap by making it very limited. Cubic inch and wts. One carb size, No sheet metal manifolds, No Box, Stick or Auto doesnt matter . Stock Crank sizes. Flat top Pistons. Trophy Only prize except contingency. List the bodies legal, Duster, Nova, Camaro. Cage, 4 link, 9 inch rear or 12 bolt or Dana.

hmmph!
what?
no amc's!?!?!

how about a 410 cid limit?
no clutchless transmissions?
iron heads?

08-14-2012, 08:36 PM	#1
John Leichtamer Jr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orange City Fl Posts: 764 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bring back super/mod... The old s/m class was a good entry class to mod/elim. Bring back the class with some rules that can be some what affordable. 10.5 rear tire not 10.5w cast iron head any cast intake no sheet metal. 4-speed trans (like the old days) single 4 bbl carb 850 or less. porting allowed but no welding or epoxy A B C classes like before. Just some ideas... Hammer

08-14-2012, 08:47 PM	#2
Bob Lasko Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Wilton,CT Posts: 628 Likes: 0 Liked 185 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... Them were the days, with the novas,camaros,mavricks and so on. had a nove back in the mod days. bob lasko Attached Thumbnails

08-14-2012, 09:08 PM	#3
Bench Racer Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Green Creek (Tryon) North Carolina Posts: 331 Likes: 69 Liked 99 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... I agree fully! I miss modified production in any form.

08-14-2012, 09:28 PM	#4
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... I agree with the idea. Make it cheap by making it very limited. Cubic inch and wts. One carb size, No sheet metal manifolds, No Box, Stick or Auto doesnt matter . Stock Crank sizes. Flat top Pistons. Trophy Only prize except contingency. List the bodies legal, Duster, Nova, Camaro. Cage, 4 link, 9 inch rear or 12 bolt or Dana.

08-14-2012, 09:39 PM	#5
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,988 Likes: 1,289 Liked 1,428 Times in 296 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... Sounds fun. The autos don't need the weight subsidy though. We ran a SS/BS 69 Camaro in the 90's with a stick. Everything in that car was used except the gas and oil. It was still more expensive than a stocker. I love the idea, but it won't be cheap. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

08-14-2012, 09:46 PM	#6
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... And no FWD-conversion ''jellybean'' cars. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

08-14-2012, 10:01 PM	#7
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... I agree totally. Not that I'm smack dab in the middle of a 10.5 60 Corvette project, but I love the little motors and manual transmissions. I love Super/Stock and Stock, but if you watch the crowd reaction of, say a 10 Cobalt and then a crowd reaction to a moidified Chevy II or Corvette yankin gears....it's just more exciting. And that's what folks watch racing for....excitment! IMO. I would pay double to watch Modified and/or some type of drag racing where the driver actually did something between the starting line and 1250 feet. I did the S/G stuff, delay box, trans brake, throttle stop, let go of the button, then ride along, manage the finish line and that's it. I belive the enhancements mentioned do indeed provide more consistency. I will be using these in my SS/LA entry. But would love to see the driver be responsible for more of the run. No T-Brake, no air shift. No electronics, no Pneumatics. Just my opinion folks Wade Mahaffey

08-14-2012, 10:09 PM	#8
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... Great piece here: http://www.competitionplus.com/2006_01/supermodified.html

08-14-2012, 10:30 PM	#9
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... Mike!! __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA