What are the chances

Adger Smith · 10-09-2008, 09:13 AM

Dave Boertman runs a '88 Firebird with a '79 403 in GT/JA . He drops to GT/KA with the same combo. I noticed a few others running the 403 Olds in GT classes.
I noticed in Nitro Joes stats that in I/SA there are 2 '79 Firebirds listed. Travis Stargell & Dennis Dunlap run about 1 second under. They are listed as 403 Pontiac @ 185 HP factored to 288. I would bet these are 403 Olds. Same as Jason Biscay in a '78 Delta 88 in I/SA. The big car carries a 284 HP factor & is about .7 under in I/SA & J/SA.
Bobby, didn't Tony Crowell run a 403 in a 70'ish Camaro in SS/GT a couple of years ago in Div. 4?
Like SSDiv6 said, Looks like it will work. Big engine, big carb, small stock cam & underrated. Some of the good points of a good stocker combo.

SSDiv6 · 10-09-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Dave Boertman runs a '88 Firebird with a '79 403 in GT/JA . He drops to GT/KA with the same combo. I noticed a few others running the 403 Olds in GT classes.
I noticed in Nitro Joes stats that in I/SA there are 2 '79 Firebirds listed. Travis Stargell & Dennis Dunlap run about 1 second under. They are listed as 403 Pontiac @ 185 HP factored to 288. I would bet these are 403 Olds. Same as Jason Biscay in a '78 Delta 88 in I/SA. The big car carries a 284 HP factor & is about .7 under in I/SA & J/SA.
Bobby, didn't Tony Crowell run a 403 in a 70'ish Camaro in SS/GT a couple of years ago in Div. 4?
Like SSDiv6 said, Looks like it will work. Big engine, big carb, small stock cam & underrated. Some of the good points of a good stocker combo.

Bill Kost (RIP), had the fastest Olds 403 in the country and held many records in Stock Eliminator for many years. Boertman runs a Bob Dennis engine on his SS/GT. Also, Rock Running uses the 403 engine in SS/GT.

Robert Swartz · 10-15-2008, 08:17 PM

Read this thread with some interest. I also know where a 79 Firebird, w/o engine and transmission, resides at present. I looked up the available engine combos:

These are the engine options offered for the 1979 Firebird:

Engine Options
V6 231, "A" Code - 105hp
V8 301 "Y" Code - 140 hp
V8 301, "W" Code - 150 hp
V8 305, "H" Code - 133 hp
V8 350, "L" Code - 160 hp
V8 350, "X" Code - 155 hp
V8 350, "R" Code - 160 hp
V8 400, "X" Code - 220 hp
V8 403, "K" Code - 185 hp

Are one of the 305/350 engines corporate Chevy options? Badged as an "80", it would be eligible for IHRA GT stock, which opens up even more potential engine combinations. Just some food for thought.

bobby · 10-09-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Dave Boertman runs a '88 Firebird with a '79 403 in GT/JA . He drops to GT/KA with the same combo. I noticed a few others running the 403 Olds in GT classes.
I noticed in Nitro Joes stats that in I/SA there are 2 '79 Firebirds listed. Travis Stargell & Dennis Dunlap run about 1 second under. They are listed as 403 Pontiac @ 185 HP factored to 288. I would bet these are 403 Olds. Same as Jason Biscay in a '78 Delta 88 in I/SA. The big car carries a 284 HP factor & is about .7 under in I/SA & J/SA.
Bobby, didn't Tony Crowell run a 403 in a 70'ish Camaro in SS/GT a couple of years ago in Div. 4?
Like SSDiv6 said, Looks like it will work. Big engine, big carb, small stock cam & underrated. Some of the good points of a good stocker combo.

Don't know about a couple of years ago, but I think he is running a Buick in it now. Think the car is a 78.

Chuck Garey · 10-09-2008, 02:38 PM

Tony has always ran a 455 buick in his camaro in SS (with 9" tire and no brake I might add) always top ten qualifier.

bobby · 10-09-2008, 03:24 PM

Knew I wasn't to far off.

Dwight Southerland · 10-09-2008, 04:11 PM

"First-In-Line" Al Provoast ran one for years and did well.

Bob Pagano · 10-09-2008, 06:35 PM

oops, brain fade... now I remember it was a Buick. He was pitted close to us at Rusk a few years ago & had the lifter valley come apart. I remember looking at the mess it made. I think he told me it had umpteen runs on it. Some big number. Great hard working folks!!

oops again!!!! I wrote this reply on Bob's sign in...
Adger Smith

Dave Ribeiro · 10-09-2008, 09:08 PM

Bobby,

Mike Moyer from Richmond, Va runs a 77-78 White formula firebird with a 403 olds, and it runs - 1.15 under in J/SA.. He is at VMP this weekend running the NHRA Nationals..
Oh, don't be surprized by his Div. 3 number... He still keeps it in Div. 1.......FYI

10-09-2008, 09:13 AM	#1
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: What are the chances Dave Boertman runs a '88 Firebird with a '79 403 in GT/JA . He drops to GT/KA with the same combo. I noticed a few others running the 403 Olds in GT classes. I noticed in Nitro Joes stats that in I/SA there are 2 '79 Firebirds listed. Travis Stargell & Dennis Dunlap run about 1 second under. They are listed as 403 Pontiac @ 185 HP factored to 288. I would bet these are 403 Olds. Same as Jason Biscay in a '78 Delta 88 in I/SA. The big car carries a 284 HP factor & is about .7 under in I/SA & J/SA. Bobby, didn't Tony Crowell run a 403 in a 70'ish Camaro in SS/GT a couple of years ago in Div. 4? Like SSDiv6 said, Looks like it will work. Big engine, big carb, small stock cam & underrated. Some of the good points of a good stocker combo. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 10-09-2008 at 09:19 AM.

10-15-2008, 08:17 PM	#3
Robert Swartz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nineveh, Indiana Posts: 512 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: What are the chances Read this thread with some interest. I also know where a 79 Firebird, w/o engine and transmission, resides at present. I looked up the available engine combos: These are the engine options offered for the 1979 Firebird: Engine Options V6 231, "A" Code - 105hp V8 301 "Y" Code - 140 hp V8 301, "W" Code - 150 hp V8 305, "H" Code - 133 hp V8 350, "L" Code - 160 hp V8 350, "X" Code - 155 hp V8 350, "R" Code - 160 hp V8 400, "X" Code - 220 hp V8 403, "K" Code - 185 hp Are one of the 305/350 engines corporate Chevy options? Badged as an "80", it would be eligible for IHRA GT stock, which opens up even more potential engine combinations. Just some food for thought. __________________ Robert Swartz - Swartz & Lane 66 Chevy II Pro 95 Achieva EF/SA, 78 Mustang II U/SA (work in progress) #354 stock

10-09-2008, 02:38 PM	#5
Chuck Garey Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 173 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: What are the chances Tony has always ran a 455 buick in his camaro in SS (with 9" tire and no brake I might add) always top ten qualifier.

10-09-2008, 03:24 PM	#6
bobby Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: League City, Texas Posts: 243 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What are the chances Knew I wasn't to far off.

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 2,001 Likes: 64 Liked 779 Times in 193 Posts	Re: What are the chances "First-In-Line" Al Provoast ran one for years and did well.

10-09-2008, 06:35 PM	#8
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 240 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: What are the chances oops, brain fade... now I remember it was a Buick. He was pitted close to us at Rusk a few years ago & had the lifter valley come apart. I remember looking at the mess it made. I think he told me it had umpteen runs on it. Some big number. Great hard working folks!! oops again!!!! I wrote this reply on Bob's sign in... Adger Smith __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA Last edited by Bob Pagano; 10-09-2008 at 06:36 PM. Reason: oops!

10-09-2008, 09:08 PM	#9
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: What are the chances Bobby, Mike Moyer from Richmond, Va runs a 77-78 White formula firebird with a 403 olds, and it runs - 1.15 under in J/SA.. He is at VMP this weekend running the NHRA Nationals.. Oh, don't be surprized by his Div. 3 number... He still keeps it in Div. 1.......FYI __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK