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bobby 10-09-2008 07:11 AM

What are the chances
 
of building a stocker out of a 79 Trans Am with a 403 Olds motor in it. found one around the corner from my house for sale the other day. Looks to be all original with minor cosmetic work needing to be done.

SSDiv6 10-09-2008 07:32 AM

Re: What are the chances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby (Post 86470)
of building a stocker out of a 79 Trans Am with a 403 Olds motor in it. found one around the corner from my house for sale the other day. Looks to be all original with minor cosmetic work needing to be done.

The 403 Olds is a very competitve engine when built properly. The downside is the weak block with its thin block casting and the open webbing in the mains.

When building one, I would suggest Bob Dennis in Alabama.

Adger Smith 10-09-2008 09:13 AM

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Dave Boertman runs a '88 Firebird with a '79 403 in GT/JA . He drops to GT/KA with the same combo. I noticed a few others running the 403 Olds in GT classes.
I noticed in Nitro Joes stats that in I/SA there are 2 '79 Firebirds listed. Travis Stargell & Dennis Dunlap run about 1 second under. They are listed as 403 Pontiac @ 185 HP factored to 288. I would bet these are 403 Olds. Same as Jason Biscay in a '78 Delta 88 in I/SA. The big car carries a 284 HP factor & is about .7 under in I/SA & J/SA.
Bobby, didn't Tony Crowell run a 403 in a 70'ish Camaro in SS/GT a couple of years ago in Div. 4?
Like SSDiv6 said, Looks like it will work. Big engine, big carb, small stock cam & underrated. Some of the good points of a good stocker combo.

SSDiv6 10-09-2008 09:46 AM

Re: What are the chances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 86485)
Dave Boertman runs a '88 Firebird with a '79 403 in GT/JA . He drops to GT/KA with the same combo. I noticed a few others running the 403 Olds in GT classes.
I noticed in Nitro Joes stats that in I/SA there are 2 '79 Firebirds listed. Travis Stargell & Dennis Dunlap run about 1 second under. They are listed as 403 Pontiac @ 185 HP factored to 288. I would bet these are 403 Olds. Same as Jason Biscay in a '78 Delta 88 in I/SA. The big car carries a 284 HP factor & is about .7 under in I/SA & J/SA.
Bobby, didn't Tony Crowell run a 403 in a 70'ish Camaro in SS/GT a couple of years ago in Div. 4?
Like SSDiv6 said, Looks like it will work. Big engine, big carb, small stock cam & underrated. Some of the good points of a good stocker combo.

Bill Kost (RIP), had the fastest Olds 403 in the country and held many records in Stock Eliminator for many years. Boertman runs a Bob Dennis engine on his SS/GT. Also, Rock Running uses the 403 engine in SS/GT.

bobby 10-09-2008 01:02 PM

Re: What are the chances
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 86485)
Dave Boertman runs a '88 Firebird with a '79 403 in GT/JA . He drops to GT/KA with the same combo. I noticed a few others running the 403 Olds in GT classes.
I noticed in Nitro Joes stats that in I/SA there are 2 '79 Firebirds listed. Travis Stargell & Dennis Dunlap run about 1 second under. They are listed as 403 Pontiac @ 185 HP factored to 288. I would bet these are 403 Olds. Same as Jason Biscay in a '78 Delta 88 in I/SA. The big car carries a 284 HP factor & is about .7 under in I/SA & J/SA.
Bobby, didn't Tony Crowell run a 403 in a 70'ish Camaro in SS/GT a couple of years ago in Div. 4?
Like SSDiv6 said, Looks like it will work. Big engine, big carb, small stock cam & underrated. Some of the good points of a good stocker combo.


Don't know about a couple of years ago, but I think he is running a Buick in it now. Think the car is a 78.

Chuck Garey 10-09-2008 02:38 PM

Re: What are the chances
 
Tony has always ran a 455 buick in his camaro in SS (with 9" tire and no brake I might add) always top ten qualifier.

bobby 10-09-2008 03:24 PM

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Knew I wasn't to far off.

Dwight Southerland 10-09-2008 04:11 PM

Re: What are the chances
 
"First-In-Line" Al Provoast ran one for years and did well.

Bob Pagano 10-09-2008 06:35 PM

Re: What are the chances
 
oops, brain fade... now I remember it was a Buick. He was pitted close to us at Rusk a few years ago & had the lifter valley come apart. I remember looking at the mess it made. I think he told me it had umpteen runs on it. Some big number. Great hard working folks!!

oops again!!!! I wrote this reply on Bob's sign in...
Adger Smith

Dave Ribeiro 10-09-2008 09:08 PM

Re: What are the chances
 
Bobby,


Mike Moyer from Richmond, Va runs a 77-78 White formula firebird with a 403 olds, and it runs - 1.15 under in J/SA.. He is at VMP this weekend running the NHRA Nationals..
Oh, don't be surprized by his Div. 3 number... He still keeps it in Div. 1.......FYI


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