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Old 04-02-2008, 01:31 PM   #11
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Default Re: Msd Dist/with Accel Dfi ??

Glad to hear you have the Sportsman key

The key plugs into the USB port on your Laptop or PC that is connected to the car. That's all there is to it, once you have the key plugged into the USB port with the Laptop/PC connected to your car you should be able to view more tables of the Accel DFI

The Pro key will let you view and change all the tables in the Accel

The Sportsman key will let you view and change most of the tables in the Accel, but not all

You could start with the Sportman key and see how it goes before spending more money for the Pro key
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:19 PM   #12
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Default Re: Msd Dist/with Accel Dfi ??

Hey Csjta

OK, next problem never seems to simple

The cord coming from my accel unit, the end that would plug into my lap top is a 9 pin........the sportsman key is a 25 pin..........I have a place on my laptop that I can plug the 25 pin key into....but can I use a 9 pin to 25 pin adapter................I went and picked one up, but I have not plugged it in yet wanted to see what your thoughts were on this ?

So why a 9 pin cord and a 25 pin key ?.....

Thanks much again for the help
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:09 AM   #13
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Default Re: Msd Dist/with Accel Dfi ??

The "Key" just plugs into your USB port on the laptop, that's all it does. Just insert into the usb port.

The cable will plug into the 9 pin port on your laptop.

Do you have a 9 pin port?

Do you have a USB port?

Just looked at Accels website, looks like they make 2 types of keys, a USB type key and a Parallel port type key

I have dealt with the USB type, not sure how to hook up the Parallel port type, you could allways try the 25 to 9 pin adapter and see if it works, I wouldn't think it would hurt anything

Does your key have a part number on it?
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Old 04-03-2008, 09:59 AM   #14
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Default Re: Msd Dist/with Accel Dfi ??

Hi

Part number on the key is a 77002su

Ya I had a look on the Accel site too

I am using a older laptop so it has a 9 pin connection and a 25 pin connection

Yes I think I will just try plugging it in with the adapter and see what it does

Thanks for all your input it is much appreciated, I have not ran one of these systems before and it is a learning curve

Thanks Again
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:39 AM   #15
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Default Re: Msd Dist/with Accel Dfi ??

Hey csjta

OK I tried adapter no luck

Then I put the cable into the 9 port and left the key in the 25 port....And YES now I can access the tables for ignition, start up, and RPM

So currently it is set up at 15 degrees in the Accel.......and the RPM is at 360
So it would appear to me in crank mode it is giving it like 47 degrees total counting say 32 in the distributor..........does that sound right to you ?

So I was thinking of dropping the timing down to 0 degrees and bumping up the RPM up to about 550 or 600 scale only goes to 600............does any of that sound right to you ?

On the timing graph it looks like it bases it off of engine temp, so I am not sure on the graph how long to leave it at 0 before it scales up ?............is that just a trial and error thing.......I would think as soon as it starts it comes off this scale and goes to other settings

Thanks again for all your help
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:57 PM   #16
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Default Re: Msd Dist/with Accel Dfi ??

Good deal, glad you got it to work

The Start Up Term timing table is based off engine temp

I would set it to 0 degrees all the way across the table to start with and try it, makes adjustments as necessary

Remember you have your intial timing already there, so anything you add or subtract in this table adds or subtracts to the intial timing during cranking

As far as the rpm table I would just leave it set to where Accel has it for now
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:37 PM   #17
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Default Re: Msd Dist/with Accel Dfi ??

Hi csjta

There is one box there that show the base timing it is at about 20.5 degrees does that need to be changed ? or should that be left and just deal with the graph ?

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Old 04-04-2008, 03:46 PM   #18
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Hi csjta

No I tried flat lineing at zero didn`t not seem to help

Then I took it well into the negatives, spun over easier, but would not light
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:51 PM   #19
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Yea you will have to play with the settings in that table to see what timing your motor likes

Also the very first timing table in the Base Advance you can play with that and see if that helps any, I thinks it's the 200 rpm table
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