Bandimere shut down

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Superfan1

The answer is that you evidently believe that life begins at conception; and I believe that life begins at birth. You are Pro Life and I am Pro Choice; you have your belief and I have mine.
I have a question for you; what do you do in the case of rape or incest that results in a pregnancy? Are you still against the woman's right to have an abortion?

Since you and your democrat pals are so concerned with human life, why don't you take a look at this.

"A total of 623,471 abortions for 2016 were reported to CDC from 48 reporting areas".

Here's the source. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/ss/ss6811a1.htm

The site has data all the way back to 1979.

Since you think that over a half a million abortions a year don't matter, maybe you can take a look at crime statistics from the Burea of Justice Statistics to see how ever democrat run city is rife with crime, particularly homicides.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/oklelc18.pdf

I can't wait to get to the part about your "centrist moderate" hero, Joe Biden. There's 40 years of data on him.

Notice how I don't need to use CNN or other incredibly biases sources and that's being kind..

[Casey Miles]

Originally Posted by Superfan1

I do not support the "radical left" as in AOC and the Green New Deal. I am a moderately liberal Denocrat and so is Biden which is why I strongly support him.

“Ukraine judge orders Joe Biden be listed as alleged perpetrator of crime in prosecutor’s firing”
“The infamous story of Joe Biden’s effort to force the firing of Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in 2016 has taken a new legal twist in Kiev
In Kiev late last month, District Court Judge S. V. Vovk ordered the country’s law enforcement services to formally list the fired prosecutor, Victor Shokin, as the victim of an alleged crime by the former U.S. vice president, according to an official English translation of the ruling obtained by Just the News.

You will not see this in the regular main stream media now will you?

Casey Miles

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Casey Miles

“Ukraine judge orders Joe Biden be listed as alleged perpetrator of crime in prosecutor’s firing”
“The infamous story of Joe Biden’s effort to force the firing of Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in 2016 has taken a new legal twist in Kiev
In Kiev late last month, District Court Judge S. V. Vovk ordered the country’s law enforcement services to formally list the fired prosecutor, Victor Shokin, as the victim of an alleged crime by the former U.S. vice president, according to an official English translation of the ruling obtained by Just the News.

You will not see this in the regular main stream media now will you?

Casey Miles

Don't forget about the money there, China and everywhere else.

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by Yo Ken

I don't usually get upset when members blatantly ignore posting about covid on Class Racer, but if you continue to hijack this thread you will be removed. I don't give a dam about your opinion on covid. And please don't quote the media, that's an insult to all of us. You have been warned, and if you respond to this post you will be removed. I suggest you stick to race related posts. Ken

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

This is so over blown and if I have to here from another member about we need to listen to our leaders and the media, I will remove them for good!

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

So Mr. Sarvas, you use the word threaten. So if I say you are skating on thin ice you would feel threatened? I don't have a problem with members having a different view than mine. My problem is when a member mentions cnn as a source.

Sorry Mr. Miele but I don't get the skating on thin ice analogy. Anyways, after reading your posts do I think my life is being threatened? Certainly not. However, how should members take your "I'll remove them for good" post? If they mention Covid19 or media (CNN) in the main lobby they're out? That's how I took it.

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

I dont believe masks doing anything, and if you believe they do, why can't we open everything up.

Some people in office feel their responsibility to protect the public is more important than auto racing. If I owned a race car, I would be disappointed if I couldn't race. I'm sure it sux. If you don't like decisions politicians make, advocate for change.

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

This is a all political to bring down the president. That's my opinion, if you feel im wrong, explain in a logical way why you feel differently.

Sorry sir, I really don't think 140,000 Americans jumped in body bags just to bring down the president. I just don't...

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Be careful, I still may boot you...lol.

That would be most unfortunate...


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[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy.

Looks like the lynch mob is out. Got yer pitch fork at the ready Billy?


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[CMcAllister]

Originally Posted by Superfan1

The answer is that you evidently believe that life begins at conception; and I believe that life begins at birth. You are Pro Life and I am Pro Choice; you have your belief and I have mine.
I have a question for you; what do you do in the case of rape or incest that results in a pregnancy? Are you still against the woman's right to have an abortion?

Full term, premature? How premature? Viable? A fetus is not alive? Or just a mass of cells? Explain the people who have survived a botched abortion and are walking around today. Or the people who were delivered and survived after a mother was killed in an accident. Are they alive? Viable? Rare? Yes, but it proves your belief to be incorrect.

First of all, there is no "right" other than the one made up by the pro-choice crowd. And hiding behind phrases like "women's health" is disgusting. If there is a real "need" to end a pregnancy - legitimate health of the mother, rape, etc. - or any other reason, it should be required to be done before a determined point early in the pregnancy. Before the fetus has a heartbeat, which is part of the law in several states, is a good start. Or within a few months of conception. You want choice? Fine. Make it early or not at all.

Nothing to do with Bandimere but there it is and I'm done with it now.

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by CMcAllister

I hate this $#!&. I hate that regardless the subject or the activity, political BS gets in the way. And makes no mistake, this virus crap, the riots - 100% political at this point. Restrictions and shutdown for a month or two - maybe justified. We were all kind of afraid of the unknown, but the experts used numbers like 1,000,000 dead to scare us. And nearly 6 months later, we still aren't really open in any real way, despite what "they" say.

Forums should be focused on the subject of interest in the title at the top of the page. Politics and religion should be saved for places where those are the main topics. But it's become impossible when government and politics have been allowed or forced into every part of everyone's day, regardless what you are doing. You can't go to the store for a loaf of bread without having to deal with crap some politician decided you should have to deal with.

I miss the days when you could load up your junk, drive to the track and not worry about being accosted by DOT cops. Not worry about the EPA outlawing your late model race car. Not have to worry that the next great idea will make it impossible to do something you've enjoyed for years without committing a felony. Not have to worry about every tiny little piece of BS that the government has come up with in order to solve a problem that they made up. The days when you could just focus on work and the car and going racing and you took for granted politics would just work itself out without tearing the country to pieces. Businesses are falling by the wayside, activities are being cancelled, no one knows what the future will be and we are about at the "eff it 'till next year" point.

It's become a huge dumpster fire. There is a huge culture war that has been going on and is about to get hot and unless your name is Trump, Obama, Soros, Bloomberg, Pelosi, Schumer, or a few others, you're just a peon stuck in the middle and suffering the consequences. The Constitution is toilet paper, the free press in propaganda, history is being eliminated, America is the devil and the Governor of New Jersey doesn't give a damn about the Bill of Rights, but at least he admits it, which is more than most will do.

I blame both sides. One for becoming radicalized and pushing it, the other for allowing it. The faux Conservatives owned it all for 2 years, Trump was ready to sign whatever they passed to fix all of the bad stuff, and they screwed around, made excuses and in the end, did very little.

I'm not really interested in rioting, burning, looting, throwing bricks at cops, so that leaves me wondering which activities, I might actually prefer to participate in, will survive and be allowed for the rest of this year and into the future. I'm ready for this year to be a bad memory, go to PRI without hearing the words "mask" or "social distancing" and work in the shop without having to wonder if there will actually be a racetrack to go to. Without wondering if a bunch of a-holes and their pals at city hall will get their wish and start another civil war. And maybe going to the track again next year without caring whether the other people there are Democrats or Republicans.

Yawn...


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[CMcAllister]

Originally Posted by Superfan1

I do not support the "radical left" as in AOC and the Green New Deal. I am a moderately liberal Denocrat and so is Biden which is why I strongly support him.

Perhaps you should pay attention to the words that have been put on his teleprompter lately. The moderates are being run off.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas

Sorry sir, I really don't think 140,000 Americans jumped in body bags just to bring down the president. I just don't...pS

Paul, could you enlighten me to the number of people who have died from the common flu this year? Pneumonia? Have these diseases been miraculously cured?
My sweetie's cousin died from a stroke that was brought on by stage 5 kidney disease. Cause of death? Covid-19. If you would like, I'll send you a copy of the death certificate. He may well have HAD Covid-19 when he passed but it didn't KILL him.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas

Honest to God Teddy, you're like the squealer in grade school that would tattle when kids would shoot spitballs at the teacher...sheesh


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If you don't like what happens here, then pack your ***** and leave.
This is a drag racing site, for racers and fans , so I'm not going away ..You, on the other hand,..might be a different story