Bandimere shut down

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by Yo Ken

I don't usually get upset when members blatantly ignore posting about covid on Class Racer, but if you continue to hijack this thread you will be removed. I don't give a dam about your opinion on covid. And please don't quote the media, that's an insult to all of us. You have been warned, and if you respond to this post you will be removed. I suggest you stick to race related posts. Ken

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

This is so over blown and if I have to here from another member about we need to listen to our leaders and the media, I will remove them for good!

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

So Mr. Sarvas, you use the word threaten. So if I say you are skating on thin ice you would feel threatened? I don't have a problem with members having a different view than mine. My problem is when a member mentions cnn as a source.

Sorry Mr. Miele but I don't get the skating on thin ice analogy. Anyways, after reading your posts do I think my life is being threatened? Certainly not. However, how should members take your "I'll remove them for good" post? If they mention Covid19 or media (CNN) in the main lobby they're out? That's how I took it.

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

I dont believe masks doing anything, and if you believe they do, why can't we open everything up.

Some people in office feel their responsibility to protect the public is more important than auto racing. If I owned a race car, I would be disappointed if I couldn't race. I'm sure it sux. If you don't like decisions politicians make, advocate for change.

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

This is a all political to bring down the president. That's my opinion, if you feel im wrong, explain in a logical way why you feel differently.

Sorry sir, I really don't think 140,000 Americans jumped in body bags just to bring down the president. I just don't...

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Be careful, I still may boot you...lol.

That would be most unfortunate...


pS

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas

Sorry sir, I really don't think 140,000 Americans jumped in body bags just to bring down the president. I just don't...pS

Paul, could you enlighten me to the number of people who have died from the common flu this year? Pneumonia? Have these diseases been miraculously cured?
My sweetie's cousin died from a stroke that was brought on by stage 5 kidney disease. Cause of death? Covid-19. If you would like, I'll send you a copy of the death certificate. He may well have HAD Covid-19 when he passed but it didn't KILL him.

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Paul, could you enlighten me to the number of people who have died from the common flu this year? Pneumonia? Have these diseases been miraculously cured?
My sweetie's cousin died from a stroke that was brought on by stage 5 kidney disease. Cause of death? Covid-19. If you would like, I'll send you a copy of the death certificate. He may well have HAD Covid-19 when he passed but it didn't KILL him.

Whatever you do don't mention that hospitals get more federal money for every covid patient they report. Definitely don't mention the two states that have clamped down hardest Trump won 2016.

None of this has anything to do with mail-in voting and stealing the election in November.

What difference does it make that millions are out of work, companies are going under, and people are working from home while trying to educate their children? Forget about the Constitution and how civil liberties being trampled on.

Do you want to riot and loot? Go for it. Do you want to go to church? Go to jail.

[Ken Miele]

No point it quoting you Sarvas as you have posted the typical liberal talking points. Nothing new or enlightening, just numbers that can not be confirmed. Even if it were accurate.... 330 million people live in the US, a 140 thousand deaths is less than .04%. Hardly a pandemic that has ruined peoples lives and businesses

Yes, you should be worried... i said covid and cnn in the same context, if you think cnn is a viable news source we have nothing more to say.

[Ken Miele]

Here you go Billy.... that first number is pretty bad. Why hasn't our trusted government officials mandate masks to protect us. This is 2019-2020 flu season right from the trusted cdc

39,000,000 – 56,000,000
flu illnesses


18,000,000 – 26,000,000
flu medical visits


410,000 – 740,000
flu hospitalizations

24,000 – 62,000
deaths

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

39,000,000 – 56,000,000
flu illnesses


18,000,000 – 26,000,000
flu medical visits


410,000 – 740,000
flu hospitalizations

24,000 – 62,000
deaths

Covid19 - 140,000 deaths


What's the point?


pS

[Yo Ken]

Wow... are you that stupid. 39 million have gotten the flu staring 2019...pretty much the same number as the last flu season... why were we not wearing masks to protect everyone in th past. Does 40 to 60 thousand deaths mean anything to you, man you are heartless

Only about 4 million got covid and people like you are freaking because of your so called trusted leaders.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

No point it quoting you Sarvas as you have posted the typical liberal talking points. Nothing new or enlightening, just numbers that can not be confirmed. Even if it were accurate.... 330 million people live in the US, a 140 thousand deaths is less than .04%. Hardly a pandemic that has ruined peoples lives and businesses

Yes, you should be worried... i said covid and cnn in the same context, if you think cnn is a viable news source we have nothing more to say.

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Here you go Billy.... that first number is pretty bad. Why hasn't our trusted government officials mandate masks to protect us. This is 2019-2020 flu season right from the trusted cdc

39,000,000 – 56,000,000
flu illnesses


18,000,000 – 26,000,000
flu medical visits


410,000 – 740,000
flu hospitalizations

24,000 – 62,000
deaths

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas

Covid19 - 140,000 deaths


What's the point?


pS

► (62000 / 33000000) * 100 = 0.01879%


► (140000 / 330000000) * 100 = 0.04242%


► (0.04242 / 0.01879) * 100 = 225.758% Higher in half the time.


Stan

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas

Covid19 - 140,000 deaths


What's the point?


pS

You yawned a while back. Is it that exhausting being a dolt? I wouldn't know but am anxious to hear your experience.

Why don't you go here and do some reading

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...veillance.html.

Start with probalbe covid deaths. The unconfirmed type.

Never mind, here you go.

"A probable case or death is defined as:

A person meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19;

A person meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence;

A person meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19."

Then go here

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ing-in-us.html

Pay attention now.

"These data are compiled from a number of sources. Not all tests are reported to CDC.
The number of positive tests in a state is not equal to the number of cases, as one person may be tested more than once."

Then try this and pay attention to the fourth paragraph.

"CDC tracks COVID-19 illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths to monitor trends, detect where outbreaks are occurring, and determine whether public health measures are working. However, counting exact numbers of COVID-19 cases is not possible because COVID-19 can cause mild illness, symptoms might not appear immediately, there are delays in reporting and testing, not everyone who is infected gets tested or seeks medical care, and there are differences in how completely states and territories report their cases.

COVID-19 is one of about 120 diseases or conditions health departments voluntarily report to CDC. State, local, and territorial public health departments verify and report cases to CDC. When there are differences between numbers of cases reported by CDC versus by health departments, data reported by health departments should be considered the most up to date. Health departments may update case data over time when they receive more complete and accurate information. The number of new cases reported each day fluctuates. There is generally less reporting on the weekends and holidays.

CDC reports death data on three sections of the website: U.S. Cases & Deaths, COVID Data Tracker, and NCHS Provisional Death Counts. U.S. Cases and COVID Data Tracker get their information from the same source (total case counts); however, NCHS Death Counts are based on death certificates that use information reported by physicians, medical examiners, or coroners in the cause-of-death section of each certificate.

Data from each of these pages are considered provisional (not complete and pending verification) and are therefore subject to change.

Counts from previous weeks are continually revised as more records are received and processed. Because not all jurisdictions report counts daily, counts may increase at different intervals.

[CMcAllister]

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas

Covid19 - 140,000 deaths


What's the point?
pS

New York + New Jersey = 48,000
add Mich & Ill with their severe restrictions & anti-Trump governors = 62000

Median age of people died - 78

Number of old folks in states where COVID patients were sent to nursing homes - unknown

Number of people listed as COVID but actually died from something else (non-COVID flu, pneumonia, COPD, etc) - unknown

Number of people died in a motorcycle wreck listed as COVID - at least 1

The Point(s)?

The real number caused by COVID - With the cooked books, the hospitals listing COVID as the cause on everyone who died for a few months to get paid, the corruption killing thousands of old folks deemed expendable in certain states, lies, cheating - we'll never know

Take away the four states with anti-Trump governors and inflated numbers, take away people over 80, or take away the fake numbers and it looks like a normal flu season.