motor home safety - Page 2

Dick Butler · 03-27-2016, 11:22 PM

Seems very interesting. Wonder how many failures of the general product has occurred?

FireSale · 03-28-2016, 01:36 AM

It seems to me that blowing a front tire at 70mph in anything is pretty bad news. I think Jeff got out in good shape considering that he is alive.

I drive my racer to the track so I don't have skin in the rig game, but I will do a little more checking on the tires before leaving home this season.

Dale

600ci · 03-28-2016, 09:25 AM

my system for tires is simple. good tires,not 5 year old new tires, I put in the proper PSI then I check tire temp cold with temp gauge(laser) log the data,
then after being on the road for a while fuel stop etc I check tire temp again
hot all should be fairly equal. if one tire is at a higher temp that means low
psi and should be checked. Better than hitting the tire with a stick.
10+ years driving a big truck. works with all tires. take care of your tires and
they'll take care of you my 4 cents

BOB KIRKBRIDE · 03-28-2016, 10:25 AM

After seeing the pictures of the motor home, I think it's a miracle that Jeff came out of that with as few injuries as he had. Those motor homes don't do well in crashes. What damages did the race cars sustain? I didn't see any pictures of the trailer or the cars. I blew a front right tire on my Ford F-350 crew cab at 75 mph towing my race car in the trailer on my way to the track a few years ago. I managed to keep it straight and off to the side, no damage. I changed tires about every three years here in Las Vegas. The dry climate takes its toll on them,

Dick Butler · 03-28-2016, 06:35 PM

I was reminded today that the tires on the big motorhomes are originally designed to run 1000's of miles on a semi in a year. None of us uses them that much in the time they can dry rot so they may look fine on the tread and be overlooked. On inspection today found my right front dry rot showing up around the lettering by the rim. For safety I will replace it tomorrow. Plan on getting TYRON installed next month.

Eric Merryfield · 03-29-2016, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

I was reminded today that the tires on the big motorhomes are originally designed to run 1000's of miles on a semi in a year. None of us uses them that much in the time they can dry rot so they may look fine on the tread and be overlooked. On inspection today found my right front dry rot showing up around the lettering by the rim. For safety I will replace it tomorrow. Plan on getting TYRON installed next month.

Out of interest, how old are the tires you are replacing? My truck tire place says 5 years, regardless of miles on motorhomes. Also can you post how much the tyron costs and the before and after ride quality.....

Thanks

Eric

Mike Pearson · 03-29-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield

Out of interest, how old are the tires you are replacing? My truck tire place says 5 years, regardless of miles on motorhomes. Also can you post how much the tyron costs and the before and after ride quality.....

Thanks

Eric

most say 5 years on big truck tires no matter how many miles or tread. I don't think the Tyron system would be a real advantage on a semi type tire. When I blew a steer tire a few weeks ago on my toter there was not enough left of the tire to help with the handling. I was only running 60 - 65 mph when the tire blew so I had no problem keeping control plus I did not have the trailer with me. The tire completely disintegrated when it blew. Sounded like a shotgun when it exploded. I think a TPMS would be the way to go.

jmcarter · 03-29-2016, 02:16 PM

Biggest hazard to tires is heat, and sun if it's parked outside. We're picking up our new MH on Thursday and while the coach is new off the line it will be interesting to see what the date code on the tires reveals. My understanding that Michelins are good for longer than five years provided they're cared for of course. Got TPMS on all my stuff except for the trailer and going to investigate the best way to add it to the trailer, expect I may need some kind of 'booster' at the back of the MH to get the signal forward.

Sure was nice seeing Jeff respond to the thread, obvious his wit survived quite well. When the thread started I was concerned that somebody implied Jeff had somehow done something wrong or neglectful to cause his accident and it was good to see him put it in perspective.

Dick Butler · 03-29-2016, 04:37 PM

Interested in the blow out that totally disintegrated the tire. Could it be it was chewed up running on it after it blew? The Tyron keeps the rubber under the rim edge(in theory) while you slow down so the rim does not cut it up going across it. and your rim doesn't get chewed on the pavement. I believe slowing down without braking may be the pearl of the whole discussion. Videos show blow out not even resulting in turning of the vehicle after blow out with tyron but how quickly they applied brakes is not obvious.
I lost a rod at 3/4 track at Indy time trial. Took out left front Moroso tire. Slowed without braking hard and it went straight. Tried to brake it wanted to go to guard rail. Crossed the finish line 114 on blown tire. Tire was not off the rim. Lucky.....
I will post later about dealer for the Tyron close by....

Mike Pearson · 03-29-2016, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Interested in the blow out that totally disintegrated the tire. Could it be it was chewed up running on it after it blew? The Tyron keeps the rubber under the rim edge(in theory) while you slow down so the rim does not cut it up going across it. and your rim doesn't get chewed on the pavement. I believe slowing down without braking may be the pearl of the whole discussion. Videos show blow out not even resulting in turning of the vehicle after blow out with tyron but how quickly they applied brakes is not obvious.
I lost a rod at 3/4 track at Indy time trial. Took out left front Moroso tire. Slowed without braking hard and it went straight. Tried to brake it wanted to go to guard rail. Crossed the finish line 114 on blown tire. Tire was not off the rim. Lucky.....
I will post later about dealer for the Tyron close by....

There was nothing much left of the tire once I got it stopped. The entire tread was off and hot much left of the sidewalks. I got it stopped quickly and the wheel was not damaged. I was driving through a construction zone so I could have run over something that damaged the tire. It gave no advance notice that anything was going wrong just a loud boom and the front end dropped.

03-27-2016, 11:22 PM	#11
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: motor home safety Seems very interesting. Wonder how many failures of the general product has occurred?

03-28-2016, 01:36 AM	#12
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: motor home safety It seems to me that blowing a front tire at 70mph in anything is pretty bad news. I think Jeff got out in good shape considering that he is alive. I drive my racer to the track so I don't have skin in the rig game, but I will do a little more checking on the tires before leaving home this season. Dale __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394

03-28-2016, 09:25 AM	#13
600ci Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 163 Likes: 5 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: motor home safety my system for tires is simple. good tires,not 5 year old new tires, I put in the proper PSI then I check tire temp cold with temp gauge(laser) log the data, then after being on the road for a while fuel stop etc I check tire temp again hot all should be fairly equal. if one tire is at a higher temp that means low psi and should be checked. Better than hitting the tire with a stick. 10+ years driving a big truck. works with all tires. take care of your tires and they'll take care of you my 4 cents

03-28-2016, 10:25 AM	#14
BOB KIRKBRIDE Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 62 Likes: 4 Liked 15 Times in 2 Posts	Re: motor home safety After seeing the pictures of the motor home, I think it's a miracle that Jeff came out of that with as few injuries as he had. Those motor homes don't do well in crashes. What damages did the race cars sustain? I didn't see any pictures of the trailer or the cars. I blew a front right tire on my Ford F-350 crew cab at 75 mph towing my race car in the trailer on my way to the track a few years ago. I managed to keep it straight and off to the side, no damage. I changed tires about every three years here in Las Vegas. The dry climate takes its toll on them,

03-28-2016, 06:35 PM	#15
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: motor home safety I was reminded today that the tires on the big motorhomes are originally designed to run 1000's of miles on a semi in a year. None of us uses them that much in the time they can dry rot so they may look fine on the tread and be overlooked. On inspection today found my right front dry rot showing up around the lettering by the rim. For safety I will replace it tomorrow. Plan on getting TYRON installed next month.

03-29-2016, 02:16 PM	#18
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,295 Likes: 2,382 Liked 3,174 Times in 971 Posts	Re: motor home safety Biggest hazard to tires is heat, and sun if it's parked outside. We're picking up our new MH on Thursday and while the coach is new off the line it will be interesting to see what the date code on the tires reveals. My understanding that Michelins are good for longer than five years provided they're cared for of course. Got TPMS on all my stuff except for the trailer and going to investigate the best way to add it to the trailer, expect I may need some kind of 'booster' at the back of the MH to get the signal forward. Sure was nice seeing Jeff respond to the thread, obvious his wit survived quite well. When the thread started I was concerned that somebody implied Jeff had somehow done something wrong or neglectful to cause his accident and it was good to see him put it in perspective. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

03-29-2016, 04:37 PM	#19
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: motor home safety Interested in the blow out that totally disintegrated the tire. Could it be it was chewed up running on it after it blew? The Tyron keeps the rubber under the rim edge(in theory) while you slow down so the rim does not cut it up going across it. and your rim doesn't get chewed on the pavement. I believe slowing down without braking may be the pearl of the whole discussion. Videos show blow out not even resulting in turning of the vehicle after blow out with tyron but how quickly they applied brakes is not obvious. I lost a rod at 3/4 track at Indy time trial. Took out left front Moroso tire. Slowed without braking hard and it went straight. Tried to brake it wanted to go to guard rail. Crossed the finish line 114 on blown tire. Tire was not off the rim. Lucky..... I will post later about dealer for the Tyron close by....