If you could run a National event without the AHFS in place-

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

...and every pass you made at that event would not get you h.p., then which event would it be ? (much like the National Opens are now)

The event that comes to my mind would be Indy.

Think of the excitement it would generate if Stockers were not penalized for running quicker than .999 under their index.

Class run-offs would be more exciting.

Would it attract more newly built combos ?

I can see the plus points here, but would there be any drawbacks if NHRA was to try this idea at least once a year ?

Alan - there is no penalty for running faster than .999 under .There is however a penalty for running more than 1.20 under .One second under will only bring a review and a look at your average .

[Troy Pourciau]

Gotta be POMONA, CAL for me.

[james schaechter]

Any event that they had no AHFS, but if you ran more than 1.20 automatic tear down.

[Jeff Teuton]

It has been suggested by SRAC for several years that the dreaded AHFS be dispensed with at Indy. It has been suggested by yours truly for more years than that a dispensation with the AHFS at Indy. I also suggested last year that the indexes for the Shoot Out cars was too liberal. I also suggested the same thing this year. Now if all the people that complained about the new cars in general and the 'no AHFS for Shoot Out cars' would howl, complain, post, send emails, and any other form of communications in the same volume and decibel level to NHRA about doing away with the AHFS at Indy, something might happen. Look what happened to the new cars. And the more the better, the earlier the better, so everyone could prep for Indy. They are taking 200 this year, all you have to do enter and step on it. Focus those energies on the AHFS leaving. It's gone mostly from National Opens. I'm sure someone will not like this. Sounds simple to me.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

It has been suggested by SRAC for several years that the dreaded AHFS be dispensed with at Indy. It has been suggested by yours truly for more years than that a dispensation with the AHFS at Indy. I also suggested last year that the indexes for the Shoot Out cars was too liberal. I also suggested the same thing this year. Now if all the people that complained about the new cars in general and the 'no AHFS for Shoot Out cars' would howl, complain, post, send emails, and any other form of communications in the same volume and decibel level to NHRA about doing away with the AHFS at Indy, something might happen. Look what happened to the new cars. And the more the better, the earlier the better, so everyone could prep for Indy. They are taking 200 this year, all you have to do enter and step on it. Focus those energies on the AHFS leaving. It's gone mostly from National Opens. I'm sure someone will not like this. Sounds simple to me.

Good point Jeff.
I believe if enough class racers sent respectful letters ( or e-mails ) to the person (or people) @ NHRA who could make a decision on this, it might be a start.

Who would be the best person to send them to ?

[Andrew Hill]

With the new mineshaft rule, some events (definitely including Indy) will be exempt from the 1.00 under trigger and runs toward averages, if the first qualified in the bottom half of the field is .85 under. The last qualifier at Indy was .88 under last year, so it would have qualified by a lot. 1.20 under rule still in place. Very, very few cars will be capable of 1.20 under at Indy, so there should be a lot of good 1320' racing!

[Jeff Teuton]

The same people everyone complained to about the new cars. That includes all the tech people from each division, the National Tech Director, the Tech people in Indy(who make the decisions), the Division Directors, the other racers, the new car owners, you know, the same people everyone complained to about the new cars. It has worked.

[Ed Fernandez]

If they installed that rule there'd be a bunch of pissed off FS owners. Imagine them getting their butts whipped by the likes of some of them lower class cars capable of going about 2 seconds under unleashed. I'm sure the boys out in Glendora wouldn't be pleased either.Larry could unleash the truck on them, wouldn't that be something.

[D.Johns]

No AHFS for anyone EVER!! No lead trophies for going fast ever!! Index is set by the record. Run faster then the index you get torn down and checked for legality and if passed index changed and you get bonus points for setting a record. Everything heads up run what you brung and hope you brung enough!!!

But these sneetches have no stars upon thars!!

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Troy Pourciau

Gotta be POMONA, CAL for me.

I had 3 national events in my head and the Winternationals was 2nd on the list.

I lived out there all through the 80's and loved watching the class cars at the Winternats and the World Finals.