If you could run a National event without the AHFS in place-

[Jeff Teuton]

It has been suggested by SRAC for several years that the dreaded AHFS be dispensed with at Indy. It has been suggested by yours truly for more years than that a dispensation with the AHFS at Indy. I also suggested last year that the indexes for the Shoot Out cars was too liberal. I also suggested the same thing this year. Now if all the people that complained about the new cars in general and the 'no AHFS for Shoot Out cars' would howl, complain, post, send emails, and any other form of communications in the same volume and decibel level to NHRA about doing away with the AHFS at Indy, something might happen. Look what happened to the new cars. And the more the better, the earlier the better, so everyone could prep for Indy. They are taking 200 this year, all you have to do enter and step on it. Focus those energies on the AHFS leaving. It's gone mostly from National Opens. I'm sure someone will not like this. Sounds simple to me.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

It has been suggested by SRAC for several years that the dreaded AHFS be dispensed with at Indy. It has been suggested by yours truly for more years than that a dispensation with the AHFS at Indy. I also suggested last year that the indexes for the Shoot Out cars was too liberal. I also suggested the same thing this year. Now if all the people that complained about the new cars in general and the 'no AHFS for Shoot Out cars' would howl, complain, post, send emails, and any other form of communications in the same volume and decibel level to NHRA about doing away with the AHFS at Indy, something might happen. Look what happened to the new cars. And the more the better, the earlier the better, so everyone could prep for Indy. They are taking 200 this year, all you have to do enter and step on it. Focus those energies on the AHFS leaving. It's gone mostly from National Opens. I'm sure someone will not like this. Sounds simple to me.

Good point Jeff.
I believe if enough class racers sent respectful letters ( or e-mails ) to the person (or people) @ NHRA who could make a decision on this, it might be a start.

Who would be the best person to send them to ?

[Andrew Hill]

With the new mineshaft rule, some events (definitely including Indy) will be exempt from the 1.00 under trigger and runs toward averages, if the first qualified in the bottom half of the field is .85 under. The last qualifier at Indy was .88 under last year, so it would have qualified by a lot. 1.20 under rule still in place. Very, very few cars will be capable of 1.20 under at Indy, so there should be a lot of good 1320' racing!

[Jeff Teuton]

The same people everyone complained to about the new cars. That includes all the tech people from each division, the National Tech Director, the Tech people in Indy(who make the decisions), the Division Directors, the other racers, the new car owners, you know, the same people everyone complained to about the new cars. It has worked.

[Ed Fernandez]

If they installed that rule there'd be a bunch of pissed off FS owners. Imagine them getting their butts whipped by the likes of some of them lower class cars capable of going about 2 seconds under unleashed. I'm sure the boys out in Glendora wouldn't be pleased either.Larry could unleash the truck on them, wouldn't that be something.

[Bruce Noland]

No, not a good idea. Two thirds of the cars can't go a second under at Indy. It would be another gift.

[Jeff Teuton]

OK. Last year I proposed lowering all the indexes 2 tenths for all pre 2008 cars. All you old car people said "No No we would then get hit with hp. We can't control ourselves and need Depends.", OK it is what it is. Now myself along with many others propose no AHFS for Indy along with a plan on how to do it. Again "No No" we can't run that fast". I guess the new cars are still the problem. Hence Forth, all the new cars will be in a George Bush Eliminator. Hell old George caused it all including the new cars. So what do yall want. Keener threw it out there, we are leaving next year. Nobody likes us anyway. Maybe we need a shower at all events to wash the new car people. We already spent more than the National Debt buying multi letters (like multi multi) for these new cars anyway. Yall are going to cause me to turn Charley Bob loose. I been having a chain on him, but it's getting weak.

[D.Johns]

No AHFS for anyone EVER!! No lead trophies for going fast ever!! Index is set by the record. Run faster then the index you get torn down and checked for legality and if passed index changed and you get bonus points for setting a record. Everything heads up run what you brung and hope you brung enough!!!

But these sneetches have no stars upon thars!!

[Tony Corley]

Originally Posted by D.Johns

No AHFS for anyone EVER!! No lead trophies for going fast ever!! Index is set by the record. Run faster then the index you get torn down and checked for legality and if passed index changed and you get bonus points for setting a record. Everything heads up run what you brung and hope you brung enough!!!

Now that's what drag racing is supposed to be!!!!


Since my back ground is heads up racing, I'm in the similar boat as the earlier poster. Not being a smartbutt, just looking for someone to explain the issue to me. Other than qualifying, how does this affect anything else within the eliminator? I can understand the issue if the new cars and old cars are in the same class and they are paired up, if the new car has an advantage. That could easily be fixed with weight though, correct? Otherwise, I don't understand the issue, since the rest is just bracket racing. Someone please explain what I'm missing that seems to be upsetting so many people.

[Mike Carr]

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