Bring back super/mod...

[randy wilson]

One thing for all to remember is, if we don't turn enough r's, and pull the wheels, and have a lot of clutch and gear action, it will not fly. Also, you need all 3 makes involved. That's why I like the brodix spec head. They did all the homework for us.

[Dan Fahey]

To cut legacy costs

Use commercially sold car fuel
such as
PUMP GASOLINE !!!
or
E85 since it is a new Commercial Product.

Limit cam lift to .550 to reduce Valve Trane breakage.
Would consider Aluminum Heads.
Rule limit CC and Valve Diameter.
Intake Manifold with a limit of 2 Inch Hood rise.
EFI Throttle Body
Limit to Iron Blocks
Common Engine Sizes like 355, 396 and 430
9 inch Stocker Slick
Stock Fuel Tanks
Full Interiors

Super Boom Box Stereos :-)

Would like to see a Fat Body Class for Ford LTD/CV's, Bonneville, Wildcats, Impalas, Dodges/Plymouth, Rebel AMC's included.



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[randy wilson]

Who are we kidding? None of this will ever happen anyway.

[D.Johns]

I don't think a single crate engine would be an option. It's ok for circle trackers because they are all the same anyway. Personally I'm a Ford guy, there are chevy guys and the 2 most die hard groups AMX and MOPAR. The crate engine could work in a specific racing series like NMRA with their Coyote crate engine class.

Why not have rules like the NMCA Mean Street.(it absorbed the now defunct NMRA Pure Street class). That class was exciting to watch. Won't be cheap(again no heads up is) but keeps the spirit alive. You are severely limiting things by not allowing any new engines in.

http://www.nmcadigital.com/cat/rules...reet-Final.pdf

I haven't followed the class much since it absorbed the NMRA Pure Street class. So how it's working out. ??? But kinda the same concept just allows some newer stuff in.

[Dick Butler]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Dick, it always appears that in your world the only product or make to race is a Chevy!!!

Okay, lets only have ........ Motor, the idea is that I noted chevy sealed motor was available NOW as a good example. Sorry I am a chevy faithful because I never learned another motor. I focused on Chevy for the availability and one set of parts to understand.
Maybe someone knows another brand of sealed motor to be out there.
In general chevy was more widely distributed in stock and SS and might be a better switch for the cars currently available to use.
Thanks
Div your alternative?

[D.Johns]

Also I would limit fuel to C-10 VP

[randy wilson]

Sorry guys, but you need to limit the heads mainly. Nothing exciting about buying a crate motor, and sticking it in. Better hope you get the good one. Heads, and other simple restrictions will keep the cost down. And you need Ford, Chevy, and Mopar.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Okay, lets only have ........ Motor, the idea is that I noted chevy sealed motor was available NOW as a good example. Sorry I am a chevy faithful because I never learned another motor. I focused on Chevy for the availability and one set of parts to understand.
Maybe someone knows another brand of sealed motor to be out there.
In general chevy was more widely distributed in stock and SS and might be a better switch for the cars currently available to use.
Thanks
Div your alternative?

Dick, like Randy, the key would be having a Spec cylinder head for every brand/make of car and no crate/sealed engine.. There are offerings from Brodix and a few other companies for cylinder heads. Keeping it to an inline cylinder head will also keep the competition even in the class.

Using a flat top piston will put limitations on having custom domes and will also keep costs down in the same fashion as having a steel connecting rod in lieu of Aluminum rods.

The non-use of external oil pumps, crank trigger systems, timing belts and vacuum pumps will also save a lot of money in the class.

Since there are adapters and bellhousing's to use a PG on every engine out there and not allowing the use of a clutchless trans or a multiple disk clutch will keep the competition even too.

I believe this would make the class more even an competitive among engine builders and drivers. Also, with the current technology, a well built 360 CID engine in the class should have the ability to make 600 ~ 635 HP with a 750 CFM carb.

[Dick Butler]

Is the general opinion guys would build a motor that cost this much versus the sealed motor at 4000? I think the scope to check piston domes, sight plug for cranks and rods would be okay and agree with all the other points regarding external drivesfor pumps etc.
again Cost Okay? Would you believe the 365 cubic inch with all brands would be close to same HP for less arguements about need to factor ford or add wt to a chevy etc.?
I like a given Head number for each combination too. What about modifications on heads, NONE?

[BLIND MULE]

Here ya go!!!!

Look at that crowd!