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Old 05-04-2012, 11:00 AM   #1
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Go with GT/DAor lower Ed.....

A nice small block......
Some 400's are popular as well as some old 327 combos.
If you really want to be bold go with an LT-1......Same engine as Larry's 2 cars but built to SS specs....They are very fast.

Still get to use a 3 speed....use a trans brake.....keep your big wheelies and run in the 9's....

Buy a motorhome......and a spare everything....
Spend your kids inheritance money up before they can.....Haha...
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:03 AM   #2
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right and be treated like sh.t by the NHRA, race for peanuts and beg contingency sponsors for $. No thanks I'll pass.

Bracket racing pays far better and is far more fun. In 3 years I'm buying a stacker and building Kyle a top shelf piperack.

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Old 05-05-2012, 08:24 AM   #3
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WOW, now don't you feel better? You finally came out and said it, you don't race a "Class Car". Now as for your car being faster than mine that's easy to prove.... I have to weigh 11lbs. per cubic inch, 276X 11=3036 -100lbs. for auto trans Min. weight for me is 2936, I run it at 2975lbs. I average 9.75 seconds. So lets set your car up to 11lbs. per cubic inch, then you post how fast you went,deal? Saying your Big Block car is faster than a car with a 6 cyl. is typical bracket racer chump talk. So in parting let me congratulate you on your "coming out" and please let me know your results at 11lbs. per cube, can't wait to here the results. Joe
"Saying your Big Block car is faster than a car with a 6 cyl. is typical bracket racer chump talk" Im going to have to agree with you here. LOL awww. Personally I like to compare Eds 2900 pound 522 inch aftermarket headed, compressioned up car to Grossi's 454 flattop pistoned, 2.06 valved peanut port, Q-jet equiped SS/GTA sunfire, of course I dont think Franks ever had the opurtunity to run out there at Disneyland, like Ed runs at NEGATIVE 2000b feet air, with a 30.50 baro, but somehow Franks 8.70s look pretty good to me right now., what part of the truth dont you like Ed??????????.

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Old 05-05-2012, 08:30 AM   #4
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"Saying your Big Block car is faster than a car with a 6 cyl. is typical bracket racer chump talk" Im going to have to agree with you here. LOL awww. Personally I like to compare Eds 2900 pound 522 inch aftermarket headed, compressioned up car to Grossi's 454 flattop pistoned, 2.06 valved peanut port, Q-jet equiped SS/GTA sunfire, of course I dont think Franks ever had the opurtunity to run out there at Disneyland, like Ed runs at NEGATIVE 2000b feet air, with a 30.50 baro, but somehow Franks 8.70s look pretty good to me right now., what part of the truth dont you like Ed??????????.


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"Saying your Big Block car is faster than a car with a 6 cyl. is typical bracket racer chump talk" Im going to have to agree with you here. LOL awww. Personally I like to compare Eds 2900 pound 522 inch aftermarket headed, compressioned up car to Grossi's 454 flattop pistoned, 2.06 valved peanut port, Q-jet equiped SS/GTA sunfire, of course I dont think Franks ever had the opurtunity to run out there at Disneyland, like Ed runs at NEGATIVE 2000b feet air, with a 30.50 baro, but somehow Franks 8.70s look pretty good to me right now., what part of the truth dont you like Ed??????????.
Great post...X 1000..Luke SS 311 Super Stock GT/E

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Oil pressure is the net resistance to flow.the more internal hemorage,the lower oil pressure,the pump rpm is related to idle pressure and the relief valve sets the peak pressure,Volume is the key to addequate lubrication,Nascar Cup at 9500rpms and NHRA Pro-Stocks approaching 11,000 rpm ,both dont see over 50 # oil pressure,high oil pressure is power lost.Blown Alcohol and Nitro engines run 50-70w oil to combat fuel dilution.Bill C.
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Oil pressure is the net resistance to flow.the more internal hemorage,the lower oil pressure,the pump rpm is related to idle pressure and the relief valve sets the peak pressure,Volume is the key to addequate lubrication,Nascar Cup at 9500rpms and NHRA Pro-Stocks approaching 11,000 rpm ,both dont see over 50 # oil pressure,high oil pressure is power lost.Blown Alcohol and Nitro engines run 50-70w oil to combat fuel dilution.Bill C.

X2 I remember when we changed to a newly developed low drag pump for our dry sump. It was 4 to 5 HP.
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Ok, here's the low down on oil. If you are a Stock, Super Stock or Comp racer you're goal is to make the most HP without causing damage. Finding that spot with your combination is like finding the perfect clutch set up in a stick car or the perfect converter on an automatic car.

Is there HP is one oil over another???? Yes but just changing oil is not where the real gains are at. What you are looking for is the thinnest oil that will provide the lubrication and cooling properties you need. The real gains are in being able to run the lowest oil pressure with the minimal amount of oil in the pan reducing HP drag on the pump and windage in the pan.

In Ed's defense I will say that Mobil 1 (Extremely low viscosity) with a certain additive (I can't tell you the name) was the best at all of the above that I found. My SS/A Corvette went through the lights with the oil pressure gauge dancing between 40 and 60 lbs. You had to clutch it and shut it off immediately or the oil pressure would go to zero when you hit the brakes.

When I sent my Comp engines back to Houston to be freshened (every 30 to 40 passes) the guys in the shop would drain the oil and say "What the hell is that?" The oil drained out of the pan like water.

BTW, I've never had any lubrication issues with bearings, valve train or cyl walls. Many of the people on this forum could find additional gains of .02 to .03 or more by working this method. It's definitely worth it if you are looking for every .01. Take it slow and check the bottom end.
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Ok, here's the low down on oil. If you are a Stock, Super Stock or Comp racer you're goal is to make the most HP without causing damage. Finding that spot with your combination is like finding the perfect clutch set up in a stick car or the perfect converter on an automatic car.

Is there HP is one oil over another???? Yes but just changing oil is not where the real gains are at. What you are looking for is the thinnest oil that will provide the lubrication and cooling properties you need. The real gains are in being able to run the lowest oil pressure with the minimal amount of oil in the pan reducing HP drag on the pump and windage in the pan.

In Ed's defense I will say that Mobil 1 (Extremely low viscosity) with a certain additive (I can't tell you the name) was the best at all of the above that I found. My SS/A Corvette went through the lights with the oil pressure gauge dancing between 40 and 60 lbs. You had to clutch it and shut it off immediately or the oil pressure would go to zero when you hit the brakes.

When I sent my Comp engines back to Houston to be freshened (every 30 to 40 passes) the guys in the shop would drain the oil and say "What the hell is that?" The oil drained out of the pan like water.

BTW, I've never had any lubrication issues with bearings, valve train or cyl walls. Many of the people on this forum could find additional gains of .02 to .03 or more by working this method. It's definitely worth it if you are looking for every .01. Take it slow and check the bottom end.
Exactly what Scott said X2.Bill C.
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"Saying your Big Block car is faster than a car with a 6 cyl. is typical bracket racer chump talk" Im going to have to agree with you here. LOL awww. Personally I like to compare Eds 2900 pound 522 inch aftermarket headed, compressioned up car to Grossi's 454 flattop pistoned, 2.06 valved peanut port, Q-jet equiped SS/GTA sunfire, of course I dont think Franks ever had the opurtunity to run out there at Disneyland, like Ed runs at NEGATIVE 2000b feet air, with a 30.50 baro, but somehow Franks 8.70s look pretty good to me right now., what part of the truth dont you like Ed??????????.
Agreed.

Another good comparison is John Clegg's SS/AM, 457 BBC, 3250 lbs, 7.90s, compared to a 522 BBC, 2900 lbs, 8.90s.
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