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Old 04-17-2012, 08:33 AM   #1
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You didn't mention weight in the trunk. Most stickers have considerable weight back there; high and way back.
Most stockers carry weight for the purpose of running a class other than the car's natural class.

That said, this car ain't a stocker yet, rather a bracket car and you'd have a hard time convincing most bracket racers that they need to add weight to hook.

While it will work, it's not need IF the chassis/suspension is setup correctly evident by my Chevelle which carried no additional weight/ballast, who's front to rear bias is 59%/41% of it's 3880lbs., runs on Hoosier radial slicks and will hook in a car wash.


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Old 04-17-2012, 03:18 PM   #2
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Front shocks and bushings are where you should be paying your attention to.........
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:40 PM   #3
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The radials wear out much faster than bias. Some stocker drivers only run the radials when needed.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:50 PM   #4
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Ran Hoosier's 30 x 10.5 radial slicks on my nearly 2 ton Chevelle that 60 footed low 1.30's and a best of 1.28, for 8 seasons, going through at least 3 sets a season.

Logged a minimum of 75 passes on each set before swapping them out for a new set without any indication the tire was going away with the 60 foots varying thousanths from pass to pass on any given day. Then these same tires went on a lighter weight car and saw another 75 passes minimum before they were retired.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:55 PM   #5
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Most stockers carry weight for the purpose of running a class other than the car's natural class.

That said, this car ain't a stocker yet, rather a bracket car and you'd have a hard time convincing most bracket racers that they need to add weight to hook.

While it will work, it's not need IF the chassis/suspension is setup correctly evident by my Chevelle which carried no additional weight/ballast, who's front to rear bias is 59%/41% of it's 3880lbs., runs on Hoosier radial slicks and will hook in a car wash.

THAT SAID...He asked for advice.
THAT SAID...He said he would like to move towards the car being in Stock Eliminator
THAT SAID...I offered friendly advice along the lines of his question.
THAT SAID...I have more experience than you do in the Class.
THAT SAID...Your Chevelle has an entirely different suspension than the Firebird in question and was not a even a Class car as the OP was asking about.
THAT SAID...He didn't ask about your OLD Chevelle. I'll bet he already knows about it!
THAT SAID...We get it. You don't!
THAT SAID...Go back to the mirror and repeat..."I'm wonderful, I'm special, and by-goly. I want the world to know"
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:16 PM   #6
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THAT SAID...He asked for advice.
THAT SAID...He said he would like to move towards the car being in Stock Eliminator
THAT SAID...I offered friendly advice along the lines of his question.
THAT SAID...I have more experience than you do in the Class.
THAT SAID...Your Chevelle has an entirely different suspension than the Firebird in question and was not a even a Class car as the OP was asking about.
THAT SAID...He didn't ask about your OLD Chevelle. I'll bet he already knows about it!
THAT SAID...We get it. You don't!
THAT SAID...Go back to the mirror and repeat..."I'm wonderful, I'm special, and by-goly. I want the world to know"
THAT SAID, I think I would run the car at class legal weight now and start dialing in as such. It seems that is what the gent with the Firebird is working toward. I know that's what I'd do.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:40 AM   #7
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:40 PM   #8
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THAT SAID...He asked for advice.
THAT SAID...He said he would like to move towards the car being in Stock Eliminator
THAT SAID...I offered friendly advice along the lines of his question.
THAT SAID...I have more experience than you do in the Class.
THAT SAID...Your Chevelle has an entirely different suspension than the Firebird in question and was not a even a Class car as the OP was asking about.
THAT SAID...He didn't ask about your OLD Chevelle. I'll bet he already knows about it!
THAT SAID...We get it. You don't!
THAT SAID...Go back to the mirror and repeat..."I'm wonderful, I'm special, and by-goly. I want the world to know"
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:36 PM   #9
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THAT SAID...He asked for advice.
correction, he asked for opinions and all that replied gave theirs.
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THAT SAID...He said he would like to move towards the car being in Stock Eliminator
he also said that a year ago when he signed on. The fact is his car is a bracket car and he a bracket racer!
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THAT SAID...I offered friendly advice along the lines of his question.
so did everyone that replied
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THAT SAID...I have more experience than you do in the Class.
don't matter, his is NOT a class car!
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THAT SAID...Your Chevelle has an entirely different suspension than the Firebird in question and was not a even a Class car as the OP was asking about.
and your super stock amx isn't this firebird that is a bracket car!
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THAT SAID...He didn't ask about your OLD Chevelle. I'll bet he already knows about it!
he asked about running radial slicks on a bracket car!
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it's obvious that's it YOU that don't get it
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THAT SAID...Go back to the mirror and repeat..."I'm wonderful, I'm special, and by-goly. I want the world to know"
this coming from the guy that self proclaims to be..."Arizona's BEST Realtor"

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Old 04-18-2012, 05:49 PM   #10
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correction, he asked for opinions and all that replied gave theirs.
Sure, we all know you have options that you feel everybody needs to hear, time after time...But, he asked about slicks on his Gen 1 Firebird which uses a leaf spring. Much different than a Chevelle.
he also said that a year ago when he signed on. The fact is his car is a bracket car and he a bracket racer!
Nice to know you keep a dosier on everybody here. But I can't see that it's relevant that a year ago he said he wanted to move into Class racing his Firebird and he has not made the move (yet). Is the fact he hasn't made the transition (yet) make his questions irrelevant? It appears to me you are quite sure he will never make the move. But either way, that's his dream and if so, good for him. At least he has set some goals.
so did everyone that replied

don't matter, his is NOT a class car!
and your super stock amx isn't this firebird that is a bracket car!
I have both Stock & Super Stock numbers. But it does have a leaf spring suspension with Calvert bars like the OP. And again, he is stating he wants to make the car a Class car.
he asked about running radial slicks on a bracket car!
And I made comments to both radials and bias slicks. Did you miss that? As I'm not his sponsor and do not plan on sending him slicks to try, it's the OP's decision to make. That's why he asked for advice or opinions, whichever.
it's obvious that's it YOU that don't get it
Coming from a guy that doesn't have a Class car, posts on Class Racer about Class cars, bemoans those that race class cars and continuously takes every opportunity to brag about a bracket car he know longer even posseses and constantly insists there is something uniquly special and superior of his Gen 4 Firebird in comparison to Class racers rides, no, I guess I don't get it!

this coming from the guy that self proclaims to be..."Arizona's BEST Realtor"
Where do you see that? Again, that's from your dossier file because I haven't used that in years and it is not on my signature or even profile. Hasn't been for years. But I have already made sales approaching $3,000,000 on my own this year and it's only April. So I'll bet I'm a top 1% in Arizona. Thanks for asking!

Back to your mirror. I have to get back to work.
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