2011 ahfs

[CWhitney]

Why doesn't NHRA just factor all the new cars with right HP. Then we would't be in this mess!

[Jim Kaekel]

Originally Posted by CWhitney

Why doesn't NHRA just factor all the new cars with right HP. Then we would't be in this mess!

I couldn't have said that it any better myself

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel

I couldn't have said that it any better myself

X 2 Here we go again !

[JRyan]

I have one question regarding using altitude adjusted runs. I'll use my car as an example here. My car runs SS/NA. At sea level my index is a 12.15 at Las Vegas my index is a 12.45. Let's say I run an 11.24 on the timeslip. This would be -1.21 under the index. At sea level this means I'd receive automatic horsepower. However, when you correct that run to sea level which is what is done when setting a record it only equates to a 10.96 and change. That wouldn't trigger automatic horsepower.
So what is NHRA going to actually use for a figure -1.21 altitude run or -1.19 under sea level index? If I was setting a record at the divisional it would be corrected to the 10.96 and that's what would show up as the record. Can any commitee members answer this?

Rick Ryan

[Toby Lang]

Mark,

You're right about them adding divisionals and altitude tracks to the mix.

I understand that you and a lot of other people like to go fast. As you know, I have to run against the 340 Mopars. The 340 is a good combo, right? I believe you run a 340 also. It must be a good combo if you chose to build one as you like to go fast.

When was the last time the 340s got hit with HP? I could be wrong, but I don't think they've been hit since I've been running Stock. Then last year they made it even easier to protect the combo by making the triggers softer. With the new AHFS rules the 340s will probably never be hit. Awesome.

My car isn't slow, but it isn't fast either. I did go an 11.07 in F/SA in the first round of class at Phoenix in 2006. Then Mark Dickerson went 10.98 at 103 MPH to beat me in the final.

Diamond Jim is freshening the Whale motor this winter. He's going to try some new things. Hopefully it will pick up some.


-Toby

[Jason]

Originally Posted by CWhitney

Why doesn't NHRA just factor all the new cars with right HP. Then we would't be in this mess!

Only with new cars that are not yet accepted will this possibly happen. Once a car is in the classguide and has been given a horsepower rating it cannot be corrected because with the AHFS, NHRA's hands are tied. The first word in the AHFS is Automatic. That means the system has to do the figuring with on track data only. There is no wording in the AHFS that gives NHRA the power to correct what is blatantly underrated. Nowhere does the AHFS wording say that NHRA can add enough horsepower to correct a bogus combo on its own. The only change they can make is to give a combo less horsepower than on track performance shows via the AHFS.

[MikeFicacci]

How about making the AHFS quarterly instead of twice a year?

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[Super Sport]

Originally Posted by Jason

Only with new cars that are not yet accepted will this possibly happen. Once a car is in the classguide and has been given a horsepower rating it cannot be corrected because with the AHFS, NHRA's hands are tied. The first word in the AHFS is Automatic. That means the system has to do the figuring with on track data only. There is no wording in the AHFS that gives NHRA the power to correct what is blatantly underrated. Nowhere does the AHFS wording say that NHRA can add enough horsepower to correct a bogus combo on its own. The only change they can make is to give a combo less horsepower than on track performance shows via the AHFS.

And who's fault is that?