CJ engine options and HP ratings.

[Sean Cour]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I am not at all opposed to OEM participation, in fact, the opposite is true.

But I am diametrically opposed to NHRA and OEM's blatantly, obviously, and intentionally screwing everyone who does not buy one of the new cars. The class cannot stand it, and the racers cannot afford it.

And no, this is not "just like the original factory wars", because in this case NHRA is a knowing and willing accomplice colluding to screw over anyone not willing and able to just pony up for a brand new factory Stock Eliminator class killer. And in this economy, that is the vast majority of racers, because the vast majority could never afford to to it, even if they could sell their current car, which they can't, because even without the market being flooded, cars aren't selling, unless they're nearly given away, and a lot of them aren't selling even then. Imagine what cars would be worth if a large segment of racers began trying to sell them in order to build these new killer cars, if they could, or wanted to.

Alan-

Racers that are already competing in these "new" car classes, are already vested deep with the car they already own. If you were wanting to build a '69 Camaro for AA, A, or B, you would already know that to run with guys like Sorensen, Richard, Defrank, Shaul, to name a few, you would have to realize that you're going to spend over a $80,000 to field this car. This number might be light, unless you're going to do alot of the work yourself.
So the new car prices are not entirely out of line for a very fast, high class car. IMO

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Sean Cour

Alan-

Racers that are already competing in these "new" car classes, are already vested deep with the car they already own. If you were wanting to build a '69 Camaro for AA, A, or B, you would already know that to run with guys like Sorensen, Richard, Defrank, Shaul, to name a few, you would have to realize that you're going to spend over a $80,000 to field this car. This number might be light, unless you're going to do alot of the work yourself.
So the new car prices are not entirely out of line for a very fast, high class car. IMO

Sean,
I work on a AA car already, I know exactly what it costs, right down to the last penny. I work on nearly every single piece on the car. I don't do the body work, and I don't build the carburetor, although I can do either.

Thanks for making my point for me. Because the expensive AA Camaro I work on can't possibly hope to compete with the new cars. Even Sorenson can't run with them.

It's not that the prices are out of line for what you could have bought or paid to build one of the older cars. It's that the older cars are now unable to compete, so all of those cars lost some value, and can't compete against the new cars in a heads up race.

[Chad Mahlosky]

I am 29 years old, and still consider myself a young man. I started at 12 years old in a jr. dragster, then straight to super pro, and now to stock. I have a G/SA Nova, but mostly due to time and money, stay very close to home when it comes to racing. I spent my own money buying this grandma car, turning it into a stocker, and racing the thing unsupported by anyone. For a 1972 Nova, its a rust free, no bondo, cream puff. Then you have racer X, Y, or Z. He goes out, buys a 2010 CJ, and spends an assload of money and now he automatically shoots to the top of the ladder. I will walk by that car, may even mention that I think it looks decent. However at the end of the day, I have an admiration for the guy that did himself, who can work on the car without his engine builder there, and doesn't need to call his injector specialists between runs to know what tune he should be running. How does that guy think he or his car is cool??? I wouldn't bat an eye to take Greg Hill's car, Larry Hills(even in pink), Arnetts camaro, or Craddick car that Alan works on in heartbeat over one of those things. If dad didn't like this **** so much, I would stick to strickly nostalgia races, because those people have a great time doing it. Almost like what I used to have when I started stocker racing.

[Alan Roehrich]

Chad, you have a good car, and you're a good driver, guys like you are the future of Stock and Super Stock.

Also, Kevin Cradduck and I appreciate your comments on the orange AA/SA 69 Camaro. We hope to be faster next year, I am working on our program this winter. We're hunting a problem that has plagued us all year, while I'm also looking at places to find power, and get it to the ground. No, we cannot run with the Challengers or the CJ's, but we are not quitters.

[qwiked]

Originally Posted by Sean Cour

Alan-

Racers that are already competing in these "new" car classes, are already vested deep with the car they already own. If you were wanting to build a '69 Camaro for AA, A, or B, you would already know that to run with guys like Sorensen, Richard, Defrank, Shaul, to name a few, you would have to realize that you're going to spend over a $80,000 to field this car. This number might be light, unless you're going to do alot of the work yourself.
So the new car prices are not entirely out of line for a very fast, high class car. IMO

Sean -- I was looking for you boys and Dad to show up with one of these CJ's --Get back to Dad's roots --so to speak !! Tell Brian to write the check --Seriously hope all is well with Dad

[Sean Cour]

Originally Posted by qwiked

Sean -- I was looking for you boys and Dad to show up with one of these CJ's --Get back to Dad's roots --so to speak !! Tell Brian to write the check --Seriously hope all is well with Dad

We're working on it. Looks like next week Ford will start building them.