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Old 12-09-2009, 06:00 PM   #41
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better inform warren johnson, ken blacks bunch, and jegs. they are spending alot of money on nothing when purchasing high priced cutchless units when an m-22 muncie is just as quick. would save them a ton of money. if clutching the car was as quick, everyone not clutching would start doing it to save on break downs. i know it is harder on parts to pull a clutch assisted trans in and out than it is a true clutchless.
Sorry Randy, I should have worded it different. Was told there is no MAJOR advantage...like you said worth a few hundreths, but not much more. You are also correct about the Soft-loc style clutch. I've been running an old fashion rag style non-adjustable, and slips just enough where I can pull the shifter pretty much anywhere. But I know I'm losing at least a tenth as a result.

On a side note I talked to another guy running a GF-2000 who mentioned issues with Gardner Springs popping off. I believe he said it was damaging the sliders as a result. Was a low 9 second small block Mustang weighing approx 2800 lbs. He says it picked up about 2-3 tenths switching from a pro-shifted toploader.
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:26 PM   #42
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Come on Guys, just find a good solid tenth somewhere else in the car and let's keep banging the gears "with the clutch" like the good ole days. I realize that it's quicker not using the clutch on clutch assisted transmissions, but they always tend to be breaking/wearing something little by little on each and every pass, no matter how many new/better parts are installed or spare transmissions are put in to replace the damaged ones. If everyone drove them the way they should be with the clutch in every gear change, there would be less breakage... right? Maybe the guys that don't want to use their left leg any after the starting line, can just add an "A" on the window? That seems simple enough.
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:26 AM   #43
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thanks for clearing that up gary, i know their is no half second, i was just saying their is a differance. some were saying there was no differance, and possibly slower, was what i was trying to clarify. at our local track we used to have some cordinationally challenged drivers spit their gum out before staging for safety reasons.
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:21 PM   #44
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they did not run 8.20s over 150mph
True,

They ran very low nines with cars that had super stock springs and shocks for a rear suspension. In 1965 Sox ran a 9.44 at 145mph in an altered wheel base 1965 Ply. with an injected hemi and a 4 speed with the only modification being every other tooth grinded off the syncro's. Try that on skinny tires!

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Old 12-12-2009, 05:49 PM   #45
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This is just about (but not quite) the stupidest thread I have seen on this site in a while.

What some people won't do to stur up a turd.....
By next week clutchless transmissions will be legal in Stock and Super Stock. That came right from Danny @ NHRA. He said by next Tuesday that information would be posted on NHRA's website. Unless they have a change of mind that was what he told me at PRI.

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Old 12-12-2009, 05:54 PM   #46
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By next week clutchless transmissions will be legal in Stock and Super Stock. That came right from Danny @ NHRA. He said by next Tuesday that information would be posted on NHRA's website. Unless they have a change of mind that was what he told me at PRI.

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Old 12-13-2009, 11:45 AM   #47
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Default Re: Clutchless tranny in S/S?

from the fan aspect wont it be like,

"hey theres another one of them new fangled 4 speed automatic cars again,what happened to the stick cars?"
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Old 12-13-2009, 12:40 PM   #48
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Officials at NHRA said this week they were considering wording revisions on a couple of rules. One being the manual tranmissions wording. If all parties sign off on the change there would be a revision in the wording to more align the rule with the transmissions that are being used now. The revision may or maynot exclude certian types of available transmission. All of this will be decided this next week if at all possible.

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Old 02-03-2010, 06:37 PM   #49
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any word on this, its killing me as well as other stickshifters...



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Old 02-03-2010, 07:24 PM   #50
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Per Pat Cvengros today we will have an answer by Monday.

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