Clutchless tranny in S/S?

randy wilson · 12-09-2009, 01:51 PM

better inform warren johnson, ken blacks bunch, and jegs. they are spending alot of money on nothing when purchasing high priced cutchless units when an m-22 muncie is just as quick. would save them a ton of money. if clutching the car was as quick, everyone not clutching would start doing it to save on break downs. i know it is harder on parts to pull a clutch assisted trans in and out than it is a true clutchless.

Gary Smith · 12-09-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by randy wilson

better inform warren johnson, ken blacks bunch, and jegs. they are spending alot of money on nothing when purchasing high priced cutchless units when an m-22 muncie is just as quick. would save them a ton of money. if clutching the car was as quick, everyone not clutching would start doing it to save on break downs. i know it is harder on parts to pull a clutch assisted trans in and out than it is a true clutchless.

Sorry Randy, I should have worded it different. Was told there is no MAJOR advantage...like you said worth a few hundreths, but not much more. You are also correct about the Soft-loc style clutch. I've been running an old fashion rag style non-adjustable, and slips just enough where I can pull the shifter pretty much anywhere. But I know I'm losing at least a tenth as a result.

On a side note I talked to another guy running a GF-2000 who mentioned issues with Gardner Springs popping off. I believe he said it was damaging the sliders as a result. Was a low 9 second small block Mustang weighing approx 2800 lbs. He says it picked up about 2-3 tenths switching from a pro-shifted toploader.

SuperStockDodge · 12-09-2009, 09:26 PM

Come on Guys, just find a good solid tenth somewhere else in the car and let's keep banging the gears "with the clutch" like the good ole days. I realize that it's quicker not using the clutch on clutch assisted transmissions, but they always tend to be breaking/wearing something little by little on each and every pass, no matter how many new/better parts are installed or spare transmissions are put in to replace the damaged ones. If everyone drove them the way they should be with the clutch in every gear change, there would be less breakage...

right? Maybe the guys that don't want to use their left leg any after the starting line, can just add an "A" on the window?

That seems simple enough.

randy wilson · 12-10-2009, 09:26 AM

thanks for clearing that up gary, i know their is no half second, i was just saying their is a differance. some were saying there was no differance, and possibly slower, was what i was trying to clarify. at our local track we used to have some cordinationally challenged drivers spit their gum out before staging for safety reasons.

12-09-2009, 01:51 PM	#1
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Clutchless tranny in S/S? better inform warren johnson, ken blacks bunch, and jegs. they are spending alot of money on nothing when purchasing high priced cutchless units when an m-22 muncie is just as quick. would save them a ton of money. if clutching the car was as quick, everyone not clutching would start doing it to save on break downs. i know it is harder on parts to pull a clutch assisted trans in and out than it is a true clutchless. __________________ don,t have one

12-09-2009, 09:26 PM	#3
SuperStockDodge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stickville USA Posts: 261 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Clutchless tranny in S/S? Come on Guys, just find a good solid tenth somewhere else in the car and let's keep banging the gears "with the clutch" like the good ole days. I realize that it's quicker not using the clutch on clutch assisted transmissions, but they always tend to be breaking/wearing something little by little on each and every pass, no matter how many new/better parts are installed or spare transmissions are put in to replace the damaged ones. If everyone drove them the way they should be with the clutch in every gear change, there would be less breakage... right? Maybe the guys that don't want to use their left leg any after the starting line, can just add an "A" on the window? That seems simple enough. __________________ Sean Fischer 5864 SS/E

12-10-2009, 09:26 AM	#4
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Clutchless tranny in S/S? thanks for clearing that up gary, i know their is no half second, i was just saying their is a differance. some were saying there was no differance, and possibly slower, was what i was trying to clarify. at our local track we used to have some cordinationally challenged drivers spit their gum out before staging for safety reasons. __________________ don,t have one