Pure Stock-1995 Olds Achieva

[Mark Yacavone]

I may be fairly ignorant about IHRA, but why a FWD car in Pure Stock?
What's the problem with, say CF/SA?

BTW, is this a Quad 4 or it's descendant ?

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

I may be fairly ignorant about IHRA, but why a FWD car in Pure Stock?
What's the problem with, say CF/SA?

BTW, is this a Quad 4 or it's descendant ?

Interesting. 1/8 index is same as I/PS, 1/4 mile index is 15.15? Frankly, was looking at this purely from the sense of not having a great amount of money thrown into it. Weight wise it's already close. Making it a full fledged NHRA car does open up many possibilities.

Yes, it's one of the 16 valve Quad 4's. I haven't done my homework yet, I guess there are more than a few versions of these motors.

[Dennis Banach]

Originally Posted by Robert Swartz

Interesting. 1/8 index is same as I/PS, 1/4 mile index is 15.15? Frankly, was looking at this purely from the sense of not having a great amount of money thrown into it. Weight wise it's already close. Making it a full fledged NHRA car does open up many possibilities.

Yes, it's one of the 16 valve Quad 4's. I haven't done my homework yet, I guess there are more than a few versions of these motors.

Robert,
I just took a look at the guide engine is rated at 150 hp, the 155 is a V-6.

Was the 2900lb.s just the car ? If so it would fit in EF/SA for IHRA 1/4 index is 15.90 1/8 9.85 car would need to weigh 2850 + plus 170 = 3020. IHRA break for E is 19.00 lb.s It would be DF/S in NHRA 1/4 index 15.60 1/8 9.71

I had a friend with a Grand Am it was a `97 Quad 4 he used to run low 16s with it with some short street tires, a chip or something for the computer and not much else. It was about 10 yr.s ago so I can`t remember for sure all what he did but I know it was not much. It was his wife`s DD .

I would think you should be able to hit the index with very little money.

Best of Luck !

[Mike Taylor 3601]

I don't think front wheel drives are in pure stock anymore there used to be front wheel drive pure stock classes but they are gone and don't think they go in to regular pure stock.
I remember Ray Head and some others running rental cars in front wheel pure stock years ago.
Mike Taylor3601

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by Dennis Banach

Robert,
I just took a look at the guide engine is rated at 150 hp, the 155 is a V-6.

Was the 2900lb.s just the car ? If so it would fit in EF/SA for IHRA 1/4 index is 15.90 1/8 9.85 car would need to weigh 2850 + plus 170 = 3020. IHRA break for E is 19.00 lb.s It would be DF/S in NHRA 1/4 index 15.60 1/8 9.71

I had a friend with a Grand Am it was a `97 Quad 4 he used to run low 16s with it with some short street tires, a chip or something for the computer and not much else. It was about 10 yr.s ago so I can`t remember for sure all what he did but I know it was not much. It was his wife`s DD .

I would think you should be able to hit the index with very little money.

Best of Luck !

Well, after your post, I went back to the guide. Seems seems my reading comprehension and research skills are lacking. I completely misread the guide. Even if FWD cars can run in Pure stock. At 150 hp, it doesn't fit. I saw the DOHC and made an assumption. We all know how that works out.

So, at 17.46, it factors out as a natural BF/S car. So, we're now staring at Mark Yacavone's suggestion of running the car as a CF/S at 17.50. Really the only logical class choice. Good news is, it makes the weight issue come into line with where the car is at. With the car weighing 2900, in CF/S it can weigh 2795. I'm looking at losing at least 300lbs, figuring I first have to lose a couple hundred pounds to compensate for my own weight, you're looking at losing an additional hundred pounds to bring the car to weight.

Where this really changes the game. In CF/S, this car falls into the realm of the traditional stocker. That puts this whole idea into a different cost level. That was the appeal of Pure Stock.

[Mark Yacavone]

First of all you are looking at the NHRA breaks...

I mentioned CF/SA which is an IHRA class
In IHRA, it's a natural C car.

Now from now on it's a CL or SL model ..Nobody looks at what kind of seat covers you have. It it make you feel better, go to the boneyard and pop off a couple of emblems and glue them on.
That makes it a nat. D car so you go to E @ your current weight (15.90 index)
Doesn't that sound better ?
Most of the weight you remove would have to come of the front end...Not a good idea.

You need a real header and collector (call Billy),

Stocker cams and valve job,

A set of chain gears for the trans (Owen Quirrion)

Minimum 8" or 7" converter (call ME)

Some way to tune the computer (Ed Wright)

It ought to run under the index with a healthy short block.

If you're serious, there's a guy here that can help you (SS3011)

Now grab yourself a Rockstar and get to work !

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

First of all you are looking at the NHRA breaks...

I mentioned CF/SA which is an IHRA class
In IHRA, it's a natural C car.

Now from now on it's a CL or SL model ..Nobody looks at what kind of seat covers you have. It it make you feel better, go to the boneyard and pop off a couple of emblems and glue them on.
That makes it a nat. D car so you go to E @ your current weight (15.90 index)
Doesn't that sound better ?
Most of the weight you remove would have to come of the front end...Not a good idea.

You need a real header and collector (call Billy),

Stocker cams and valve job,

A set of chain gears for the trans (Owen Quirrion)

Minimum 8" or 7" converter (call ME)

Some way to tune the computer (Ed Wright)

It ought to run under the index with a healthy short block.

If you're serious, there's a guy here that can help you (SS3011)

Now grab yourself a Rockstar and get to work !

Mark,

Thank you for the information. I don't know that it's about being serious. It's how deep I can dig into my pocket. I really need to sit down and digest some of the information.

[Robert Swartz]

After our test run last week, we realised the car needed looking into further. First off, two things about this car show what a headache these can be when people that know less than I do, monkey with the wiring. It has an aftermarket alarm that is junk, don't roll the windows up and shut the doors with the key in the ignition, you lock yourself out. Typically of these cars, it has a loud, modern radio. The wiring is a mess! We've found plugs unhooked, a burnt fusible link, wires that go nowhere, you name it. It's an OBD 1 car. The two codes it's thrown, an 043 - the knock sensor or electronic control sensor. An 028 - which is a code for the fan relay, this code didn't show up until we started tracing and testing wires for hot or ground.

I'm pretty sure the temperature sending unit doesn't work, it was unhooked. The fan was also unhooked. Car never overheated or puked any fluids. Leads me to wonder if it has a thermostat? For my current purposes, I may look at putting a temp gage in it. We chased the wiring and can put a toggle switch in to activate the fan.

Anyone that has hooked a tach and gauges in these newer cars. Any tips or problems (other than the ones I already have) that I need to look for.

That's how I spent my Sunday. More fixing to do before this car sees the track again.