Lencos in SS

[LB Racing 3179]

I agree with Jim. SS/ Modified and Modified Stock are giving up 250 lbs to the automatics and need a clutchless trans to compensate for the weight break. These are the only classes that alow that on the same index. All other automatic classes in Comp and SS have seperate indexes. Besides most stick cars are not using the clutch anyway.

[Dinsdale]

Originally Posted by Kris

Hopefully "clutchless" is allowed. There is no et/mph advantage by having one. The major advantage is cost. The cost to run a stick is through the roof and going clutchless alleviates alot of the expense. If there is no performance edge it should be allowed. Might make things more economical to hopefully allow more people to run a stick

Wrong on all accounts. A "clutchless" trans is quite a bit more expensive than a clutch type one and both require the same clutch setup. If there was no ET advantage, why do most of the guys abuse their clutch type trannies by not clutching. I don't see where you think clutchless will be cheaper. I don't think they should be allowed in Stock or S/S and Lenco's definately NOT!! The excitement went out of Pro Stock the day they allowed Lenco's.

[SSGN]

Originally Posted by njk53

Super Stock and Stock eliminator are really getting out of hand. This kind of equipment is more like a modified production class. Where is this going to end? The trans case should be OEM.

If I had my way I would have SS and Stock be a foot brake class; no electronics, no wheelie bars, Schubeck lifters, etc. Bring some normalcy back to the two classes.
I would have a more thorough list of OEM options from the factory and not dealer installed items to allow the 55-56-57 Chevys back into stock eliminator.

Not much stock left in stock.It is really too bad everytime a new rule is allowed we get further away from the class.The end will happen soon enough,then everyone will wonder what went wrong.Not looking to start a internet pissing match just an observation.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Originally Posted by SSGN

Not much stock left in stock.It is really too bad everytime a new rule is allowed we get further away from the class.The end will happen soon enough,then everyone will wonder what went wrong.Not looking to start a internet pissing match just an observation.

I didn't see where they were talking about allowing clutchless in stock. As for allowing it in SS I would think it to be a good idea, I'm unaware of anyone who still uses the clutch in a gear change. The primary benefit I see is less trans breakage, shifting a clutch assisted trans without a clutch can certainly be done however it's very hard on the trans. I've tried both combos in my AX car and the E.T. difference is almost none existant. However the durability is considerably different. This may change some racers thoughts on the prospect of running a lever car, it certainly can't hurt. Joe

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by Crisco

Over heard a rumor of Lenco's (planetary style) transmissions being allowed in SS next year. Anyone else hear about this? Supposedly the Hemi cars are pulling for this for 2010.

as of 2 wks ago, a certain tech man said, that clutchless trannys would not be legal next year. I'd like to know because that way i can order a clutchless 5 speed...oops...did i say that..


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