60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout

Dave Jung · 06-02-2014, 01:43 PM

Last weekend I had trouble burning out. No smoke and guys watching said I had no wheel speed during burnout. Also felt funny when coming out of water onto dry part of the track. Then on Sunday my 60 would vary .07 and of course et would also be way off. It felt like it was spinning and it was definatly not picking up the front end like it should when the 60 was slow. Then when the 60 picked up, it felt way better on the launch. Guys watching said I was not spinning. Did it in both lanes. Converter going? I thought it might be carb or fuel, but with the wheel speed issue in the burnout, I'm thinking converter. Thoughts?

Metric 200 and ATI 8 inch treemaster

Thanks

HandOverFist · 06-02-2014, 01:49 PM

Does the trans fluid smell burnt?

Dave Jung · 06-02-2014, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist

Does the trans fluid smell burnt?

No, fluid is good.

HandOverFist · 06-02-2014, 01:57 PM

My guess would be to try another convertor. While you have it out look hard at the stator support shaft...sheared one in my metric.

Steve Williams · 06-02-2014, 01:58 PM

Convertor.

Signman · 06-02-2014, 06:05 PM

Had similar issue with my 200, couldn't do a burnout seemed like it was all on the converter and the car kept slowing down. New there was something wrong but was going rounds, the car kept slowing, lost in the semi. A clutch pack was burned up the cause may have been a slightly long drive shaft pushing the stack forward. Repaired and freshened the trans and converter also shortened the drive shaft and problem never reappeared.

Chris Hill · 06-02-2014, 06:21 PM

Definitely check the stater support on the metric 200.

Steve Cozakos · 06-04-2014, 09:10 AM

Dave,

Give me a call, (425) 985-6285.

Steve Cozakos

jmantle · 06-04-2014, 02:37 PM

Dave, if I recall correctly your 200 has a pressed in steel stator support. They don't break but will occasionally spin out the serrations. Put a big set of water pump pliers on it and make sure it won't turn. If you need a convertor quick, call Grant Eldridge, I think he still has one for sale.

Jim Mantle

ss3011 · 06-04-2014, 03:23 PM

Production 200/200-C have a one piece casting for the pump cover and stator shaft. Is there an aftermarket company that makes a pump cover with a pressed in stator shaft ?

06-02-2014, 01:43 PM	#1
Dave Jung Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey B.C. Posts: 135 Likes: 3 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout Last weekend I had trouble burning out. No smoke and guys watching said I had no wheel speed during burnout. Also felt funny when coming out of water onto dry part of the track. Then on Sunday my 60 would vary .07 and of course et would also be way off. It felt like it was spinning and it was definatly not picking up the front end like it should when the 60 was slow. Then when the 60 picked up, it felt way better on the launch. Guys watching said I was not spinning. Did it in both lanes. Converter going? I thought it might be carb or fuel, but with the wheel speed issue in the burnout, I'm thinking converter. Thoughts? Metric 200 and ATI 8 inch treemaster Thanks __________________ 6535 stk 81 Malibu K/SA Last edited by Dave Jung; 06-02-2014 at 01:45 PM.

06-02-2014, 01:49 PM	#2
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: 60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout Does the trans fluid smell burnt? __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

06-02-2014, 01:57 PM	#4
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: 60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout My guess would be to try another convertor. While you have it out look hard at the stator support shaft...sheared one in my metric. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321 Last edited by HandOverFist; 06-02-2014 at 02:00 PM.

06-02-2014, 01:58 PM	#5
Steve Williams Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 352 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout Convertor.

06-02-2014, 06:05 PM	#6
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: 60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout Had similar issue with my 200, couldn't do a burnout seemed like it was all on the converter and the car kept slowing down. New there was something wrong but was going rounds, the car kept slowing, lost in the semi. A clutch pack was burned up the cause may have been a slightly long drive shaft pushing the stack forward. Repaired and freshened the trans and converter also shortened the drive shaft and problem never reappeared. __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"

06-02-2014, 06:21 PM	#7
Chris Hill Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 655 Likes: 8 Liked 244 Times in 26 Posts	Re: 60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout Definitely check the stater support on the metric 200. __________________ Chris Hill https://ihmusedparts.com

06-04-2014, 09:10 AM	#8
Steve Cozakos Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 51 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout Dave, Give me a call, (425) 985-6285. Steve Cozakos

06-04-2014, 02:37 PM	#9
jmantle Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Black Creek, BC Canada Posts: 331 Likes: 79 Liked 172 Times in 81 Posts	Re: 60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout Dave, if I recall correctly your 200 has a pressed in steel stator support. They don't break but will occasionally spin out the serrations. Put a big set of water pump pliers on it and make sure it won't turn. If you need a convertor quick, call Grant Eldridge, I think he still has one for sale. Jim Mantle

06-04-2014, 03:23 PM	#10
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 909 Likes: 70 Liked 239 Times in 114 Posts	Re: 60 ft varies and no wheel speed in burnout Production 200/200-C have a one piece casting for the pump cover and stator shaft. Is there an aftermarket company that makes a pump cover with a pressed in stator shaft ?