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11-27-2022, 10:22 PM | #1 |
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thin ring grooves
With all the talk about allowing this or that in stock.I've wondered about letting thin ring grooves to be allowed in Pistons. Most all the late model cars have thin rings, and a lot of older combinations are using thin rings with spacers in their engines.Keep the ring grooves in stock location and have pistons cut for thin rings. Ring costs are bad enough as it is without throwing all these spacers into the mix. Just my thoughts.
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11-28-2022, 11:02 AM | #2 |
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Re: thin ring grooves
Out of all the wishes and wants for stock eliminator, this one makes the most $ense. I’ve sent a few emails to Pat on the subject..
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11-28-2022, 12:44 PM | #3 |
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Re: thin ring grooves
How about just making Stockers run the stock size ring?
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11-28-2022, 03:34 PM | #4 |
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Re: thin ring grooves
This seems to make the most sense to try and keep the stock in stock eliminator. Maybe a headache to enforce though.
With custom grooves in stock pistons, I can almost imagine nhra allowing a super stock type piston in stock, and allowing any compression ratio in super stock. |
11-28-2022, 04:03 PM | #5 |
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Re: thin ring grooves
Gump usually has good ideas, and this is one. My fear, is that the more
aggressive Ring producers will continue to innovate and will produce a step down, Diamond Coated, Titanium sided, Stainless Steel, dipped in gold ring, that at the end of the day, with R&D will cost a lot more than we now pay. J.R. |
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11-28-2022, 10:09 PM | #6 |
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Re: thin ring grooves
That's ok if you want to make the old cars run old technology like wide rings. If you want to make things equal you should ban the late model Challengers/Mustangs/Camaros that run traditional stock classes from taking advantage of the older driveline parts they use. In other words, they must run the rear ends they came with. I think the deepest gear in the Challenger rear end is a 3.70. Also require them to run the OE 8 speed automatics. This would be even easier to police than ring size. All you have to do is look under the car. Also the late model cars should be required to run OE type suspension with bolt on parts like the older cars. No weld up link bars and that type of thing. Also no crossbreeding parts, a Camaro has to run a Chev rear end and transmission.
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Re: thin ring grooves
Oh, you mean like JR.Stock in 1971?
I'm surprised we're not already back there...and where would you like the ring groove to be placed?
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Re: thin ring grooves
1967-1968 we cut ring new grooves in stock pistons higher up on our 283/220.....John Hoffman did the pistons...
Was worth a couple tenths 1970 Stocker pistons had narrower rings cut higher up Forged trues I think they were.... Makes no sense to me to require stock grooves 50 years later and have to use various spacers and still use thin rings
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Re: thin ring grooves
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A couple of years ago, I got a to build a couple of Camaros to test all of the factory drag parts. I'm not afraid of your proposal at all. That's as long as it applies to you too....
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Re: thin ring grooves
Cooooool! What a concept man.
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