What's with D-2?

Sally McBride · 11-19-2007, 10:33 AM

Can someone explain why our D-2 director has scheduled 4 races in 5 weeks? Bradington, Gainsville, off one weekend, then Orlando and the Gator Nationals? Looking at the rest of the year, LGMP and Atlanta, then we have no events for 5 months!

We intend to show our displeasure and go to No Problem instead of Bradington. Pretty much the same distance for our gang, but a lot more fun. Since we can't get off of work anytime we want, we are going to have to miss Gainsville so that we can get off for Orlando and the Gator's, without getting fired.

THE LEGEND · 11-19-2007, 11:21 AM

Sounds like the same person that usually does the IHRA div 9 Schedule.LOL
Chip

Jim Wahl · 11-19-2007, 01:20 PM

This is something I have been talking about for several years now. This Division (2) is circling the drain! Event schedules and communications suck! We used to have a great Winter Series, but now it is non existent. Until there is a regime change, you can call and you can email etc. but there are no answers. Until there is change, the racers will be the ones who suffer. jim

Roger K Fain · 11-19-2007, 01:33 PM

It could be that they are trying to get racers to come to the "Republic of Florida" and leave (store) their rigs there and run consecutive weekends, and then make the return trip home. That would limit the road exposure of their outfits to the dreaded Florida DMV and weights and measures group that recently fined a guy with a 70' rig $7000.00, because he didn't have the proper credentials.The DMV said that since the racer could potentially win money in his racing venture that the rig should be registered as a commercial DOT entity. The racer did not have a CDL because he was driving a Toterhome w/a stacker trailer "normally" not requiring that certification.
Sportsman Racing in the "Republic of Florida" may be a thing of the past.

Woodro Josey · 11-19-2007, 08:30 PM

After talking with a lot of my Guys, i think some are considering going to Pats Race instead, also!

Brian Oakes · 11-20-2007, 03:00 AM

i would like to here more about the guy who got the $7000.00 hit, i'am 80' and heading to FL. soon for the winter,sounds like better travel late at night, i know there is permits ya can get, better follow up on this one,. Brian

FlyingW · 11-21-2007, 10:03 AM

I think that it has a lot to do with hurricane season ( well that is what we have been told)

Dont forget guys.... we are inviting all stock, super stock, super street, super comp and super gas cars to the Lakeland Motorsports Park on the weekend of March 1st and 2nd for the 'Orange Blossom Nationals'
Tech card prices will be posted soon.

This is going to be a lot of fun. During the week we will have Test an Tune on Thurs night for $15.00. Friday night you will be able to watch the crowning of our High School Challenge winner, Saturday the event will begin with Qualifying that morning, and a bracket race that evening(extra tech card needed). Sunday will be Eliminations.

This is the off weekend between Gainsville and Orlando. We understand that a lot of you will already be down in this area and will need a place to pit until Orlando opens its gates and we will be allowing you to use the facility if need be. We will be opening our gates the Sunday evening of the Gainesville race so that you all may begin to pit for the following weekend. You will be permitted to stay through Wednesday after our event as Orlando opens on Thursday. In addition to that, if you are in need of machine work to be done, you will be right around the corner from Waibel Competition and will have the availibility to get done just about anything you need done.

Remember, this is a 1/8 mile track and you need to let us know if you will be intending to stay so that we can make sure that we have enough room for everyone. There will be a fee associated with staying, but at this point we have not nailed an exact amount down, however we want to keep it very minimal.

Hope to see you all there. We will be posting specifics about the event as they are available.

Jeremy Waibel
Waibel Competition
Lakeland Motorsports Park Camaro

Rollins_2241 · 11-21-2007, 10:08 AM

The Div. 2 schedule has always been this way, to attract Northern racers during their winter and give some of them the option to declare Div. 2 with minimum hassle. We're the only division I know of that specifically writes their schedule to attract "carpetbaggers". However, you really don't want to race down here during June-Sept., as it's miserably hot and rainy anywhere south of Atlanta.

I would like to see it spread out a bit more during April-May instead of everything stacked before Gators, but that's what brings the out-of-division car counts.

Tracy Robbins · 11-21-2007, 10:23 AM

I don't understand why all the races have to be in South Georgia or Florida...last I checked the Carolina's were division 2 also and we race from March to December here. Hurricane season included! There are a lot of racer's in NC that would compete on the NHRA side if they would have a few races less than 7 hours away. (At least some National opens to pick up some grade points) Just my .02

Angelo DiTocco · 11-21-2007, 01:08 PM

Brian.... w/ an 80' rig I suggest you bring an extra $8 grand with ya just in case.......

sorry... I couldn't resist..... will let you know which day this weekend very soon (via email)

by the way.... do you have room in your rig for my car when you head to FL???? Let me know.... I'll split the fine with ya... 50 - 50

11-19-2007, 10:33 AM	#1
Sally McBride Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 1 Post	What's with D-2? Can someone explain why our D-2 director has scheduled 4 races in 5 weeks? Bradington, Gainsville, off one weekend, then Orlando and the Gator Nationals? Looking at the rest of the year, LGMP and Atlanta, then we have no events for 5 months! We intend to show our displeasure and go to No Problem instead of Bradington. Pretty much the same distance for our gang, but a lot more fun. Since we can't get off of work anytime we want, we are going to have to miss Gainsville so that we can get off for Orlando and the Gator's, without getting fired.

11-19-2007, 11:21 AM	#2
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What's with D-2? Sounds like the same person that usually does the IHRA div 9 Schedule.LOL Chip

11-19-2007, 01:20 PM	#3
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? This is something I have been talking about for several years now. This Division (2) is circling the drain! Event schedules and communications suck! We used to have a great Winter Series, but now it is non existent. Until there is a regime change, you can call and you can email etc. but there are no answers. Until there is change, the racers will be the ones who suffer. jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

11-19-2007, 01:33 PM	#4
Roger K Fain Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clarksburg, WV Posts: 146 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? It could be that they are trying to get racers to come to the "Republic of Florida" and leave (store) their rigs there and run consecutive weekends, and then make the return trip home. That would limit the road exposure of their outfits to the dreaded Florida DMV and weights and measures group that recently fined a guy with a 70' rig $7000.00, because he didn't have the proper credentials.The DMV said that since the racer could potentially win money in his racing venture that the rig should be registered as a commercial DOT entity. The racer did not have a CDL because he was driving a Toterhome w/a stacker trailer "normally" not requiring that certification. Sportsman Racing in the "Republic of Florida" may be a thing of the past.

11-19-2007, 08:30 PM	#5
Woodro Josey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: What's with D-2? Jim and Sally After talking with a lot of my Guys, i think some are considering going to Pats Race instead, also! __________________ Woodro Josey 2002 STK Last edited by Woodro Josey; 11-20-2007 at 08:48 AM.

11-20-2007, 03:00 AM	#6
Brian Oakes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 571 Likes: 2 Liked 420 Times in 116 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? i would like to here more about the guy who got the $7000.00 hit, i'am 80' and heading to FL. soon for the winter,sounds like better travel late at night, i know there is permits ya can get, better follow up on this one,. Brian

11-21-2007, 10:03 AM	#7
FlyingW Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Frostproof, Fl. Posts: 450 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What's with D-2? I think that it has a lot to do with hurricane season ( well that is what we have been told) Dont forget guys.... we are inviting all stock, super stock, super street, super comp and super gas cars to the Lakeland Motorsports Park on the weekend of March 1st and 2nd for the 'Orange Blossom Nationals' Tech card prices will be posted soon. This is going to be a lot of fun. During the week we will have Test an Tune on Thurs night for $15.00. Friday night you will be able to watch the crowning of our High School Challenge winner, Saturday the event will begin with Qualifying that morning, and a bracket race that evening(extra tech card needed). Sunday will be Eliminations. This is the off weekend between Gainsville and Orlando. We understand that a lot of you will already be down in this area and will need a place to pit until Orlando opens its gates and we will be allowing you to use the facility if need be. We will be opening our gates the Sunday evening of the Gainesville race so that you all may begin to pit for the following weekend. You will be permitted to stay through Wednesday after our event as Orlando opens on Thursday. In addition to that, if you are in need of machine work to be done, you will be right around the corner from Waibel Competition and will have the availibility to get done just about anything you need done. Remember, this is a 1/8 mile track and you need to let us know if you will be intending to stay so that we can make sure that we have enough room for everyone. There will be a fee associated with staying, but at this point we have not nailed an exact amount down, however we want to keep it very minimal. Hope to see you all there. We will be posting specifics about the event as they are available. Jeremy Waibel Waibel Competition Lakeland Motorsports Park Camaro

11-21-2007, 10:08 AM	#8
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? The Div. 2 schedule has always been this way, to attract Northern racers during their winter and give some of them the option to declare Div. 2 with minimum hassle. We're the only division I know of that specifically writes their schedule to attract "carpetbaggers". However, you really don't want to race down here during June-Sept., as it's miserably hot and rainy anywhere south of Atlanta. I would like to see it spread out a bit more during April-May instead of everything stacked before Gators, but that's what brings the out-of-division car counts.

11-21-2007, 10:23 AM	#9
Tracy Robbins Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 846 Likes: 3 Liked 25 Times in 11 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? I don't understand why all the races have to be in South Georgia or Florida...last I checked the Carolina's were division 2 also and we race from March to December here. Hurricane season included! There are a lot of racer's in NC that would compete on the NHRA side if they would have a few races less than 7 hours away. (At least some National opens to pick up some grade points) Just my .02 __________________ Tracy Robbins SS 9766

11-21-2007, 01:08 PM	#10
Angelo DiTocco Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NY, NY Posts: 750 Likes: 175 Liked 189 Times in 48 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? Brian.... w/ an 80' rig I suggest you bring an extra $8 grand with ya just in case....... sorry... I couldn't resist..... will let you know which day this weekend very soon (via email) by the way.... do you have room in your rig for my car when you head to FL???? Let me know.... I'll split the fine with ya... 50 - 50 __________________ Angelo DiTocco '98 Firebird SS/HA '98 Firebird B/SA